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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 12:48:00

But weren t going to do. but if trump is still backing mccarthy he s convinced that s not going to work out. we have no 118 congress. this is not a joke. it s a serious thing. no house of representatives. these people are not sworn in. congressman-elect lawler on soon but he s not actually a congressman. two day of no house representatives seated. amazing. so, james, if donald trump gist came out gave an endorsement on truth social forekevin mccarthy and a lot of the people, insurrectionists weirdos and freaks are donald trump s big effort supporters do you think maybe they work something out and mccarthy may get the votes today? or do you think that these most extreme members are going to will willing to buck donald trump today? joe, that s what i say, it doesn t matter what donald trump does.

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Transcripts for CNN New Day With John Berman and Brianna Keilar 20240604 10:11:00

Incumbent republican who i ll note, mel has reported on this, what s so important to note is these are not unconservative people. sure. tom rice is, you know, heritage foundation score very high, even his trump score is in the 90s. it s the one vote that matters. liz cheney, she is a rino. i mean, look at liz cheney s record. liz cheney prior to january 6, prior to donald trump, you don t get into republican leadership like liz cheney was, third ranking republican, by being a moderate within the party. that s not how it works. but if you are going to buck donald trump, whether that s voting for impeachment which is the ultimate sin i think as he sees it or just be a critic like nancy mace, it seems like the key is to totally focus on your district, hyper local. exactly. nancy mace didn t vote for impeachment but was very vocal in her criticism of trump after

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Transcripts for CNN New Day With John Berman and Brianna Keilar 20240604 10:07:00

The research they did on this issue to try to figure out was there any ground at all, any leg to stand on, and of course there was not, but they looked at it. and also the former president is still out there saying pence did the wrong thing. so it s not as if that s in dispute, everyone knows how the former president feels about this. so what do they get out of going through a lengthy protracted process potentially a legal battle to try to get the former vp? i don t know. and the practical considerations here even putting aside the legal thing is they re running out of time. the midterms are coming up in november, they only have the public s attention for so long. they really only get one shot at this. this seems to be as much a political question for mike pence as a legal one because i don t think there is any dispute mike pence knows what went on, in conversations between donald trump and mike pence, mike pence knows what was said to him. if he wanted to come forward and tell peopl

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Transcripts for CNN New Day With John Berman and Brianna Keilar 20240604 10:10:00

i think tom rice s loss is raising questions about whether you can cross trump and survive in today s republican party. there is some evidence that it s possible, david valadao, he voted to impeach, it looks like he s poised to edge out a far right challenger but he did not have to go against someone endorsed by donald trump, he kept his head down and unlike rice who was vocal about his criticism of the president and was facing a trump-backed challenger so the remaining impeachment republicans are taking notice and they have deployed a keep your head down strategy, keeping the select committee on january 6 at arm s length. of course liz cheney is the notable exception to that but even her first two campaign ads were solely focused on local issues. yeah, it just feels like if you are on this list after tom rice, you ve got to be really nervous. he didn t just lose, he got pummeled. he lost by 25 points, an

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Transcripts for CNN New Day With John Berman and Brianna Keilar 20240604 10:12:00

January 6, she had other problems that were problematic in trump s eyes but since then she went down to trump tower and recorded a saying i was one of his early supporters and i support all of his policies and trying to focus on the issues. if you voted to impeach you are not running on it. oh, gosh, no. you knew at the time that you weren t maybe going to do this because this was going to put your political future in jeopardy. the fact that out of the ten four have already retired under various circumstances but i will tell you that none of them made that decision without considering their chances at reelection, which took a hit. it seems to me that if you voted to impeach donald trump and we ve got august 2nd we ve got three of them on the ballot, including dan newhouse in washington state. liz cheney, you look at the tom rice thing, keeping your head

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