this and were like, hey, is this guy griping because he didn't win the gold? what's your answer to that? >> no, no. i think i was asked a pretty specific question about doping in swimming, and i answered it honestly. i do think there's doping in swimming. i think that my thoughts on this matter have been informed by the ceo of u.s. anti doping, travis tiger. >> knows an awful lot about it. >> he has been talking for a couple of years, and this year he did ramp up his messaging that he's incredibly worried about the state of doping around the world, and the head of whoever looks at all swimming internationally, the executive director talked to me and he said, yeah, we have a long way to go in terms of cleaning up doping in our sport. he's a guy who also on a day-to-day basis is studying this stuff and is really in the know. so i didn't specifically call out any athlete, i didn't call out any country, i was asked a

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