face, the book is about the supreme court case that was decided at the end of the last decade, but it s much more than that. can you bring readers into various thanks things it covers? guest: it s a 14-year struggle, and the two lawyers fought and take on this case of the small mine owner in western virginia, southwestern virginia who is driven into bankruptcy by don blankenship, and they get into this, won a 50-man judgment, in a struggle, turned down, and blankenship buys the supreme court of virginia, basically, and they get so involved, and think think that he s such a bad man, they are consumed with bringing him down. they take other cases involving him, and he s like this predatory capitalist in the early years of the 20th century we born in our time, and they fight him all the years until there s a measure of victory. host: uh-huh. so many things i found interesting about it, and one of the things i wanted to ask you is the very personal prologue, about how you g