of a violent insurrection. joining us now are the family members of officer sicknick, his brothers ken and craig, sicknick and his brother gladys. thank you all for getting up with us this morning to talk about this. i imagine hearing those text messages of what they were saying in realtime behind the scenes is pretty frustrating. it was. it was i thought it would get easier after almost two years of this, but it s getting harder and harder, especially after you learn new things that are coming out. it s extraordinarily frustrating. the president is supposed to represent the country and we re so far been overall a pretty good world example of how to run things and with the last administration that went right out the window. and you ve listened to those the lawmakers last night talk and his own staff testify that he had opportunity
so, you know, i would like to focus on the fact that he s responsible it happening in the first place. and, ken, what did you make of the testimony from sarah matthews who was a deputy press secretary, talking about the internal struggle to get him to say something, but saying he did not want to use the word peace or peaceful in his message? i don t understand. it s obvious to me that his existence in the white house had nothing to do with helping the country, had nothing to do with, you know, looking out for the best interest of the country, it was looking out for him. it was looking out for to make sure he is in power, to make sure he can control everything and and the silence of the three hours, it could have been him stuck deciding, you know, whether to say something, but ultimately it was it was him covering his rear end and him making sure
a lot. you know, they went home to their families, they had dinner. i don t know what their little kids what did they tell their little kids? and what really bothers me about this whole thing is that all the people around trump, they they stayed with him for four years and let this happen. so they re culpable, too, big time, in my eyes anyway. it s astonishing he decided he had a rough time and it was time to go to bed, meanwhile, people were still being injured, some of them quite severely, many of them were just trying to do their job and support the country and the oath that they swore, which apparently trump ignored. you know, it was just unbelievable that this can happen in the united states. it is unbelievable. it s unbelievable to watch them lay out, too, just each crucial moment of what happened and really what didn t happen. ken, craig, gladys, you guys have been through a lot and
he s not. he s he s a by and large he is a narcissist, it s all about him. he couldn t care less about my brother. do you know what, i will say this, we got we got calls from a lot of politicians after my brother had passed, including mike pence. not one tweet, not one note, not one card, nothing from him because he knows. not even a postcard. he knows he is the cause of the whole thing. but he doesn t care. ken, brian, i do appreciate you being with us last night. i know it s been a difficult 24 hours for you. please give our best to your mother as well. thank you. thank you. we are going to be back with much more on the hearings and what s next.
was concerned, my, you know, cop cop alarm bells went off. joining me now are brian sicknick s brothers ken and craig sicknick. gentlemen, thank you so much for being with us. i know that you were at the hearing last night, i know your mother was there as well. what was it like for you to hear officer edwards testimony? it was yeah, so i didn t know the part about i knew brian got sprayed, i ve seen the video only once because it s very hard for me to watch it, but i didn t know of the the look of his skin, that he was pale when he got hit by the so that was new that was new to us. i can t say that i m hardened to this, but it s been over a year of constantly seeing attacks and video and news agencies, so