fundamentalists. there would be conflicts of course, but surely, he, of all people, could convince his congregation and maybe the evangelical community to welcome his new idea, that everyone is saved, that hell as a place after death does not exist. so is it really authentically biblical to believe in the hell we ve been taught? but you don t always get what you wish for. my wife and i heard it on television. just outside tulsa, carlton s home turf, is a fiery old-time pastor named bill timms. timms had once been a mentor and friend to carlton. and now? well, this was a shock. he says they re all saved. and, if they re all saved, what s he preaching for? that ought to be the end of it. if jesus made the way for everybody and they re all safe and happy, what s he preaching for? worse, said timms, carlton s preaching about hell was
hell was real. it s no different than you running a show and people don t like it and people don t believe it and so they watch another show. it s the market. once his big church had taken in $60,000 a week. now week by week it slid, $50,000, $30,000, $10,000, then barely $6,000. he couldn t meet the payroll, not a quarter of the payroll. his staff of assistant ministers sent out resumes, found jobs in other churches. to stay with carlton now, many seemed to feel, would be both morally wrong and career suicide. though very few of them like children s pastor steve palmer and senior associate pastor jesse williams decided to stay. i m a son and sons don t leave their fathers when they need them the most. but it brought some low points. what s the worst? i wouldn t want people to even know because it s too painful to even talk about. people that you thought were friends, people that you thought were close to you, you know,
but as brother timms and others were quick to point out human weaknesses, like ted s, can strike almost anyone. but leading people astray is serious business. to many people, what carlton had done was the fouler deed by far. they re both dangerous. i wouldn t want to be in either one of their shoes. where are they headed? they re headed for perdition. they re headed for hell as sure as there is a hell. but they can forgive ted because ted still believes you have to confess christ to be saved. he can be forgiven. yes. you can t? i cannot. no. it was for many who d once admired carlton pearson simply unforgivable. and folks around tulsa got the word. if they don t accept jesus christ as their savior, they are going to hell. coming up who was right? carlton pearson or the leaders of his church? and who would pay the price? ads, always infinity is made with a revolutionary material, infinicel, that forms to your body and absorbs up to 60% more than kotex regular u
control. a form of religious tyranny. now i consider myself a freedom fighter, trying to get people free from the paranoia and the penalty of following these people who say it s our way or the highway. and his own religious leaders, his fellow churchmen, were, no surprise, dismayed. listen, i love him. he is not qualified to preach in my church. not by the book. not by the book. he s not qualified. they re afraid i m going to lead people to hell. they re afraid that i m going to lead people away from the tradition. they re afraid. everything s fear. that s exactly what bill timms says. you re leading people to hell. yeah. that you are a demon possessed. yes, yes. and i would have said that a few years ago myself. but remember up to 6,000 people a week had been faithfully attending carlton s services when he preached that
but here on earth? here on earth. but as brother timms and others were quick to point out human weaknesses, like ted s, can strike almost anyone. but leading people astray is serious business. to many people, what carlton had done was the fouler deed by far. they re both dangerous. i wouldn t want to be in either one of their shoes. where are they headed? they re headed for perdition. they re headed for hell. but they can forgive ted because ted still believes you have to confess christ to be saved. he can be forgiven? yes. you can t? i cannot. no. it was for many who d once admired carlton pearson simply unforgivable. and folks around tulsa got the word. they don t accept jesus christ as their savior, they are going to hell. coming up who was right? carlton pearson, or the leaders of his church? and who would pay the price? get. the new pantene. flat to volume system.