reported to i.c.e. law enforcement was prohibited, because of sanctuary laws, and that led to the encounter with officer singh. now let s go back to ron, an immigrant. immigrated here lawfully and legally to pursue his american dream. he achieved that goal. in his dream was taken from him. no, you shouldn t politicize it, but we have to have a conversation about restrictive distillation that puts our communities at risk. ed: you can hear his brother sobbing. here now, dave waltz, and francisco hernandez. good evening, gentlemen. thank you mr. henry, thanks for having me. ed: when you hear the brother they are sobbing and the sheriff saying flatly, this officer s should still be alive,
prosecutor sunny hostin and and forensic scientist lauren codlinsky. mark, i want to start with you here. videos showing graham lying police. bogus e-mails. her brother sobbing on the stand. this seems to be tough for the defense. well look, it s not easy when you re charged with murder in any case. so there is always a reason why they charge you with murder in this case it s because they didn t have much physical evidence that proved it but they did have all of these changing stories. so the defense, i think,id a pretty good job about fronting all that with the jury. she s got a plausible explanatn for why she was saying this. and ultimately i think i m going to make a wild guess here th she may te the stand in this case. taking the stanalways a drastic measure. you say they have a plausible defense. that s essentially that she was nervous she would be misunderstood for what happened there, they wouldn t think it was an accidt. sunny, you think this is more of a am-dunk in t
still more to come. thank you so much from montana. let s dig deeper now. joining me now live cnn legal analyst mark geragos. cnn analyst and former prosecutor sunny hostin and mark i want to start wt you here. videos showing graham lying to police. bogus e-mails. her brother sobbing on the stand. this seems to be tough for the defense. well look, it s not easy when you re charged with murder in any case. so there is always a reason why they charge you with murder in this case it s because they didn t have much physical evidence that proved it but they did have all of these changing stories. so the defense, i think, did a pretty good job about fronting all that with the jury. she s got a plausible explanation for why she was saying this. and ultimately i think i m going to make a wild guess here that she may take the stand in this case.
mark, videos showing gram lying to police, bogus e-mails, her brother sobbing on the stand. this seems to be tough for the defense. well, it s look, it s not easy when you re charged with murder in any case. so there is always a reason why they charge you with murder, and in this case because they didn t have much physical evidence that proved it, but they did have all of these changing stories. so the defense, i think, did a pretty good job about fronting all of that with the jury. she s got applauseble explanation for why she was saying this, and ultimately, i think i m going to make a wild guess here that she may take the stand in this case. taking the stand, you know, always drastic measure, and they have applauseble defense that you were nervous and would be misunderstand and they wouldn t think it was an accident. sunny, you think this is more of a slam dunk in this case,
shepard: the judge seems frustrated with the defense. listen to this exchange. if your theory of the events is everchanging, maybe you just simply need to tell me what your theory of defense is at least somebody try to explain it to me. shepard: there are a number of them there, geraldo. i think i though on absolutely true. far-fetched. how do you get to it unless you are allowed to ask about family dynamics. clearly when you have a brother sobbing on the witness stand because he found out his 19-year-old sister was pregnant, that sobbing doesn t seem to be a normal emotional reaction from a brother to a sister, a 19-year-old adult sister s pregnancy. it s more a husband s reaction or a father s reaction. not a brother s reaction.