call votes tonight as expected, 52-48, which is to say 48 democrats voted to change the rules of the senate tonight in this one instance for this one piece of legislation on voting rights. only 48 democrats voted to do that. 52 votes in favor of preserving the rules. those two democratic votes in favor of preserving the rules came from joe manchin and kyrsten sinema. joining us now, e.j. dionne, columnist for the washington post and senior fellow with the brookings inside stoougs. norm orenstein, scholar at the american enterprise institute. norm orenstein, chuck schumer brought up a version of a senate rule that you have been arguing for now for years. they ve gone through multiple iterations here in an attempt to get manchin and sinema on board. this was in many ways a stripped-down and simplified