i also want to know things like tax expenditur. who is geting the tax expenditures? why isn t that count as federal spending? why don t we know about those things? when norm eisen talked about the revolving door he talked about it in terms of lobbyists. i want to do in terms of the context of e revolving door of that culture where people at the middle-management service also ended up going to other companies are coming from companies into the government agency regulating bp. i think there is mh more we can do in trms of transparency, and i want my hands untied for the fight. thank you very much. [applause] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] a great, great panel. we ve been here for about three hours and 15 minutes, which is the average time for a baseball game. [laughter] this year. we have had bout, we ve had eight innings of really interesting hits and fielding, and reay, if you listen carefully, you have learned a lot about a lot of different things