and legal issues with these two attorneys having a conversation like this. we need to remember, brooke, that they actually represent two different clients. john dowd represents the president in his personal capacity and ty cobb is white house counsel so they have different responsibilities to those clients to be discussing this in the open where they can be overheard, really opens up a lot of issues including waiving potential privileges and based on what was reported it s now given mueller a new potential avenue of investigation. there may be a document in don mcgan s safe that he is now going to have questionses abo a and may want to see. ken cuccinelli, would you waive executive privilege? well, that s a broad question, and you can t just say on all things or nothing you take them one point at a time and don mcgan s obvious concern
social media. there is a lot of outrage there, outrage is the coin of the realm on twitter. this has gone a little bit crazy and a lot of white house correspondents are offended because he stood there and lied to them. she wants an apology. on the other hand, this was very self-depricating. he owned up to it. that was saying, you know what? i wasn t telling the truth. isn t it fresh, the wounds are a little fresh? chris, if you re sitting in that white house press pool and you re sitting in that room each and every day and you re asking a tough question of this man and i don t know how many days he s been out of the job and he rolls out on the emmys stage and ha, ha, ha, and i can make a joke about crowd size? i m going to interrupt you there, brooke. two things, jamie is exactly right about twitter and outrage.
welcome back. you re watching cnn. i m brooke bolduan. you have these trump lawyers speaking very openly, apparently loudly over lunch in public in a popular washington, d.c., restaurant. they re talking about inside stuff about the russian probe, about fierce co-workers maybe wearing wires and who do you suppose they just happened to be sitting next to? new york times reporter ken vogel. tie cobb and john s personal lawyer john dowd as they were sitting there in a public space eating lunch and talking very, very loudly. ken vogel is joining me now from washington. you were sitting there and got the picture and the whole deal. can you just tell me, how did you were obviously sitting very closely. how did you realize who these people were and that this was going to be this huge scoop in the public place? yeah, brooke, i actually was having lunch with a source and the source noticeded that these
i see the bordered window behind you. reporter: yeah, that s really the theme here in st. louis. a lot of vandalism. we were in downtown st. louis. you can see this is the marriott convention center. the marriott hotel, take a look at that, very four large windows were broken. and, brooke, basically the scenario we have seen play out over the last few days is during the day you see these protests, they are calm, and peaceful. but at night things turn into chaos. what happens is when everybody leaves and starts to go home, you have a small ban of protesters, two or three dozen people, people wearing masks, they throw bottles at the cops, they throw rocks, then when the police move in, they run, and vandalism starts to occur. we know the national guard is on stand by if it gets under
yeah. i mean, well, if you think about it, brooke, you have a number of lawyers who are working ostensibly on the same side, that is, they re working for trump, trump s associates, the office of the president in as they handle this mueller probe. that said, they re competing imperatives here. it s not necessarily in jared kushner s interest for paul manafort to present information and vice versa. so you have people who serve different roles and there is suspicion about not just this issue of document production and who might be, we hear concern that there might be efforts to flip paul manafort, for instance or mike flynn and get them to talk about what they know about the trump campaign. so you have a lawyer who represents a paul manafort or a jared kushner and they re in opposition to each other in some