chris christie tired him and called him a liar at a press conference and brett schundler s position was i screwed up. i deserved to get fired but i wasn t a liar. i didn t lie to the governor. and he took that he was so angry about that carrickry zigs that he took all these documents he had that proved he had kept the governor s office in the loop. he went forward with them. that has been in my mind since watching chris christie at the press conference saying over and over the bridgette kelly is a liar, if she will reach the point but she hasn t gotten there yet. i think there s a pattern. that s one of the things we ll be looking at is a pattern. he definitely has a pattern of calling people liars, firing them. for example, he didn t call this person a liar but he fired michelle brown and then rehired her. so when the right time comes he may rehire somebody. one other thing i want to say, there s a lot of talk about in the press conference last week the governor said i take
the tone of your reporting suggested what you learned is she is not looking to take down chris christie here with any information she might have. can you share a little bit of what you learned? it s interesting. i know that she had been portrayed by the governor and some other folks as sort of a rogue operative, at least, but her reputation according to a lot of her friends, and these are both democrats and republicans, is someone who is an incredibly hard worker and very earnest and really committed to the people who mentored her, first assemblyman russo and governor christie and she was described by someone who is not a cowboy, someone who generally follows orders and is very loyal. so the idea she cooked up this entire scheme is implausible to the people who know her the best though, again, we don t know. who knows? we told the story on the show last week of brett schundler, and the name may not mann anything nationally but he s the commissioner of education and
0 just a few months before that meeting at the beginning of 2013 conservatives in the u.s. house were holding up billions of dollars in sandy recovery funds claiming a concern about runaway government spending and rising deficits. they were members of chris christie s own party. that didn t stop the governor from saying this. there s only one group to blame for the continued suffering of these innocent victims, the house majority and their speaker, john boehner. it this is not a republican or democratic issue. national disasters happen in red states and blue states and states with democratic governors and republican governors. we respond to innocent victims of natural disasters not as republicans or democrats but as americans, or at least we did until last night. now fast forward to yesterday morning, that s when the mayor of hoboken, new jersey, a city 80% under water after sandy, democratic mayor dawn zimmer, came on this show to tell a staggering story. zimmer provided e-mails
back to close out the conversation on chris christie here. and, rick, i ll turn to you as someone who probably knows him personally better than anyone else here. we started this show today by looking at how chris christie has in the past called people liars be and then it s turned out there s been documents out that have shown they were not lying to chris christie. and i remember when that happened with bret schundler, somebody told me you have to appreciate the psychology of chris christie, liken him to lbj. if you read the books about lbj, talk about how he can come up with these elaborate stories in his mind. lbj would tell you with convincing fervor and detail there s an element of that in christie. is that an accurate assessment? well, i think he s a very, very gifted presenter, if you