carefully with, traded texts or e-mails, handed them court opinions that i thought that they should read. everybody makes up their own mind. but no, we were we really were holding out hope today. and as you remember, even after somebody votes for cloture, they can still vote no on passes. john mccain did that a year plus ago on the affordable care act repeal. but it looks like today everybody s locked into their positions. again, i had reasons for coming out against judge kavanaugh a while back. but i think that the sexual assault allegations are so important. about 180 individuals, men and women from virginia, reached out to me in the last two weeks to say i ve never told anybody this story but i m telling you now. chris, some of these were people that i know, that i ve known for decades who had never shared their story of sexual assault. some were young. some were 70 or 80-year-olds. and they are so pained at the
for the life of me, we are telegraphing something very, very damaging about the senate, the judiciary committee s operations and, of course, should judge kavanaugh get on the supreme court, which is where he s heading, we re going to send yet another person with a huge cloud over his head to the supreme court, it s bad enough we sent one person like that. i think it affects the credibility of the supreme court and let s not forget that he just ripped the veil of objectivity by showing us what a partisan operative he s going to be. and he is. senator mazie hirono, thank you for being with me. sure. joining me now, nbc national political reporter heidi przybyla detailing how kavanaugh s yale classmates were ignored by the fbi in its latest investigation and it includes some remarkable texts that you acquired. talk me through the story, heidi. chris, well this just shows how the issue of whether it was a complete investigation is
kavanaugh s juris prudential philosophy and then when the sexual assault allegations came out, you know, then we stood strong on that. and look, on the other side they hope that these voters will blame democrats and be unenergized going in. the fact is, as a minority, chris, you know this, math is math, we wish it were different, we wish we had the majority, we wish we could stop a gop that was majority that was determined to ignore serious allegations of sexual assault. but wishing it was the case is not going to make it happen. the only thing that s going to make it happen is turning out and voting and putting a different senate in. and in 32 days we ve got an opportunity to put in a senate that s majority democrat where we can stop this kind of foolishness from happening and send a different message to people who have suffered or are suffering under sexual assault. all right. senator tim kaine of virginia,
civility in american society. and it s been made worse by what has happened to judge kavanaugh. i hope we can say no to mob rule by voting to confirm judge kavanaugh. no to mob rule. well, first of all, american democracy is built by the people, for the people. it is our attempt at americans pursuing self-governance. but, you know, i think if a lot of these republican senators are upset at the reaction that s going on, maybe they should stop running away from their town halls. maybe they should visit their constituents. maybe they should pick up their phone. maybe they should answer e-mails. but because they are running away from the basic tenants of democracy, our job is not to preside over our communities,
are you kidding? we women have had to do all this stuff for eons. for him to say what he did goes to show how out of touch and sadly clueless he is. how, do you think, finally he has conducted this entire affair? this entire hearing for judge kavanaugh has not been normal. for one thing they were just rushing this thing like crazy. they wanted to get him on the court for the october term so he could be the fifth vote on so many issues that will affect all of our lives. that was all a rush job. two, it s not normal that we wouldn t have access to the thousands and thousands of documents that we normally would have access to regarding judge kavanaugh. three, when we had a hearing, you know, of a credible report by dr. kavanaugh dr. ford, that not to call any other witnesses, not to have an fbi investigation, nothing normal about how this whole process was handled.