they used him as a stalking horse twice. i don t disagree. filter out all the stuff because there s going to be a lot of talking points dispatched from the white house, emphasizing his moderation, his establishment credentials and his independence. and then as jeff pointed out, he did come up through the federalist society. the federalist society was established to ensure that liberal republicans were purged. that said, democrats have a question to confront. they re angry about merrick garland and the way he and president obama were treated. but is that going to make them a hard, impulsive judge or are they going to judge judge kavanaugh on the merits? is he going to tap danceconfirm? i can t let this segment end without roe versus wade. jeffrey, we know that judge kavanaugh is an originalist in terms of his interpretation of the constitution but believes in binding precedent. which one is it?
competence and skill on the court and he just chose to go with the old suitcase. so you think that brett kavanaugh s pedigree is too elite? well, i think they re all too elite. that s sort of my rub. go on down the list. they re all elite from yale, harvard law school, supreme court clerks, did the inside washington track. those should be disqualifiers in your mind? no, they shouldn t be a disqualifier, maybe a little bit of a change. by the way, the democrats have the same formula. this is sort of the washington way of which you pick a supreme court justice frankly on both sides of the aisle. what i was hoping from the president was maybe do something a little different. maybe take someone who didn t go to yale or harvard, someone who didn t clerk at the supreme court and didn t have all these friends in washington lobbying
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jeffrey, that s where he is speaking directly to whether or not an investigation of a president a la what happened to bill clinton under ken starr is hone rouse that it would get in the way of presidential duties and he thinks that it does. and who is one of the people responsible for that owner rouse investigation of bill clinton? brett kavanaugh. suddenly when he is in a position to be elevated by a president to the supreme court, he discovers, oh, those investigations this was 2009. this writing is from 2009. i understand that. but he is on the circuit court by one point. he has only one constituency which is president to the united states. the brett kavanaugh of 1998 and the brett kavanaugh of jeff, no question. they have diametrically opposed views. whether the impulse is as cynical as you just stated or whether his views evolved and said that the president has no right to avoid a subpoena or
he is a yale law professor. so this is not as polarizing a pick. pretending it is on the democrat side could backfire politically. i don t see that at all. i think if you look at the issues on which the democrats want to make this fight, should roe v. wade be overturned, should the courts overturn what s left of obama care, should gay people be allowed to be excluded from restaurants and bakeries because they are gay jeff, you keep saying that. and i hear that. but what in kavanaugh s just profile, jury sis prudence to date makes you think he s that much of an ideologic right wing warrior. how did he get on the federalist society list? the prescreening of the federalist society? why did donald trump say in the campaign i will appoint pro life justices to the supreme court who will overturn roe v. wade? why did he say that? because he meant it. look, he clearly checks the