standing up for her colleagues, even so. i certainly describe this in my book. was she among her other colleagues reached out to kavanaugh trying to push back on some of the hostility he s received. i think that speaks a lot. julie: it does speak volumes, first of all, for ruth bader ginsburg to come to the defense of brett kavanaugh. so for her to essentially say, quote, he s a very decent ma i m wondering if that will appease all the haters out there and all the liberals that didn t want to see him in that court. i don t believe ginsburg would make a decision on somebody, as far as their character is concerned, when she makes much bigger decisions her entire career on a person s character. do you think that maybe some haters might change their minds after hearing ginsburg s take? you know, i would hope so. there are a lot of people who really look up to her, particularly on the left. she s one of the leading
julie, is increased violence and increased taking of lives, possibly u.s. lives, damaging facility or some allies in the region. that has yet to be played. i think before they ever come to the negotiating table, they will likely ex-cuted that. julie: we hope not to see that day, but very true. general jack keane, thank you very much. appreciate it. justice ruth bader ginsberg is speaking out about her new colleagues. why she is defending brett kavanaug kavanaugh. i go what s going on in our country? what s going on in our state?
candidates, incumbents who might have been worried about a well funded challenger can sleep easy. julie? julie: all right, peter doocy, thank you very much. ruth bader ginsberg is defending her new colleagues on the supreme court. the 86-year-old spoke about, well, controversial trump appointees brett kavanaugh and neil gorsuch saying my two colleagues are decent, very smart individuals. i am joined now by the chief counsel at the judicial crisis network. i think a lot of lawmakers could learn from her. here we have a liberal justice speaking positively about her conservative colleagues. she was pushing the moderator who was suggesting they weren t qualified or weren t decent people. i thought it was very nice of her to do that. she has said some very critical things about trump previously. so she showed that she s
here. john heilemann, first of all, if you are in the position of donald trump or the position of somebody in the white house what do you say? there is no backup plan. correct. that puts more pressure on susan collins, that puts more measure on murkowski, that puts more pressure on every republican, flake, that s wavering to say here is the deal, with he can have a ser conservative court if you pick kavanaugh, but if you don t pick kavanaugh we will be tied 4-4 until after the 2020 election. that s a very compelling argument. i don t believe it for a second. what about you? well, look, it s not clear that there s time at least between now and the midterms for there to be there was another possibility right there, they could put another name up, but right now it seems to me in addition to the point that you re making, joe, which is of course you say there is no backup, on top of that i think the white house is starting to recognize that the politics of this are playing to its
investigation like this it has a client, there is a client for the work product. right. and the client in this case is don mcgahn at the white house, the white house counsel. it is also the case that the white house and the white house counsel don mcgahn are the chief advocates on the part of judge kavanaugh. so they are both the clients for the work product and the main sponsors of the nomination and so, therefore, you have an inherent conflict built into this process and i think that conflict is going to be played out and teased out over the days to come. well, i mean, everybody knew, frank, that was the case from the very beginning. everybody knew that was going to be the case because it s a white house that orders it up. right now we have a lot of complaints coming in that this is only a week, which of course i think is laughable because everybody was saying, let s just get a week, so democrats got a week and now people are rubbing their hands together going a week is not eno