pardon powers to heal the country. so, you know, who knows what will happen. he s innocent until proven guilty. he has not been proven guilty. but certainly if i became president, one thing i would look at as president, is using the pardon power to heal the country. and that, by the way, doesn t go for one party. it goes for both parties. all right, so the 2024 gop presidential primary is quickly becoming the pardon primary. that was miami mayor, francis suarez, the latest republican to launch a presidential campaign. speaking with my colleague, jose diaz-balart suarez is part of a growing chorus, maybe a caucus, of republican candidates who have pledged, if elected president, to pardon donald trump if he is convicted in any of the cases that he is facing.
if i became president of the united states, i think the pardon power, one of the possible reasons for using the pardon powers to heal the country. so you know, who knows what will happen. he s innocent until proven guilty. he has not been proven guilty. but certainly if i became president, one thing i would look at as president, is using the pardon power to heal the country. that was in an interview with my colleague here at msnbc, josé díaz-balart, we are hearing that argument quite a bit down. that pardoning trump would somehow heal the country. i do not buy it, do you? no. i don t. i actually think, if this becomes the seminal question of this general election, will the republican nominee pardoning now convicted donald trump, i think the republican nominee loses the general election. i think a lot of these people, from francis flores, to nikki haley, to whomever, need to be very careful with this issue. i mean it, alicia, i think they might see value in a republican primary.
francis juarez, entered the race this week. i m sure you saw this deafness other than answer the question of what he thinks about the indictment against the former president. but i want you to take a listen to what he said about pardoning trump, specifically. if i became president of the united states, i think the pardon power, one of the possible reasons for using the pardon powers to heal the country. so you know, who knows what will happen. he s innocent until proven guilty. he has not been proven guilty. but certainly if i became president, one thing i would look at as president, is using the pardon power to heal the country. that was in an interview with my colleague here at msnbc, josé díaz-balart, we are hearing that argument quite a bit down. that pardoning trump would somehow heal the country. i do not buy it, do you? no. i don t. i actually think, if this becomes the seminal question of this general election, will the republican nominee pardoning now convicted donal
that we are all in. bill: i would certainly think so, sandra. still to come, the white house testing a quicker asylum process for migrants caught coming into the country illegally. and now learning that cartels are looking to take advantage of this new system. texas congressman tony gonzalez breaking down the new dangers at the border still to come. sandra: looking forward to that discussion. plus, sergeant daniel perry is facing up to life in prison after he was convicted of the shooting to death a blm protestors. how about governor greg abbott use his pardon powers to overturn what he is calling a wrongful conviction by a far left prosecutor backed by george soros. leo terrell is up next on that. i m really optimistic, he does not deserve to go to prison. n homeowners, have you looked at the interest rates on your credit cards lately? get ready for a shock. the rate on credit cards is now over 22%.
this is former president trump once again he s telegraphing to people who support him, go ahead and break the law, i will pardon you. this is abuse of pardon powers. he s not even the president. so trump is continuing to divide the country, trying to become relevant. i totally disagree, of course, with where he s going. in fact, i am one of the sponsors of a bill that would prevent the abuse of the president s pardon powers. look, the justice department and merrick garland said he ll investigate the january 6th insurrection as high as it goes. at this point, how much do you approve of what you know of the investigation? do you feel like he s going far enough publicly? do you think he should be investigating donald trump? for all we know, he may be investigating donald trump because merrick garland has said that nobody is going to be