i do believe, senator, he was sort of referring to you in some of those remarks about the extreme members of congress that they characterize as extreme shutting down the government to the harm of the u.s. the debt ceiling. how should republicans approach that? let me commend actually secretary lew for not being willing to demagogue on the debt ceiling the way his boss hadz. you asked him directly come october 17th, will the united states default on its debt? and three time he avoided answering. the reason is the answer is, of course not. frankly, what i wish he said and what any response to a president would say is you come out and say under no circumstances will the united states ever default on its debt. that should be the answer. secretary lou went half way there by refusing to repeat the claim that president obama s made that there is some risk