things that are not true or at least not a major problem. there s plenty of real things that you can point to to describe the horrors of human trafficking. right. it makes you wonder if the president devoted half the energy he does to concocting these things to dealing with reality. negotiating with congress and with the democrats on a border solution, that could be achieved rather than using that energy to send american government officials on a wild goose chase to come up with something that may have occurred at one point to somebody in history but it certainly isn t a major predicament on the border. we should also point out that statement did not deny an e-mail had been sent out, basically asking for evidence. thank you so much. i appreciate it. great to have you on. a reminder, don t miss full circle on facebook. get to vote on some of the stories that we cover.
you never know until there s a vote. shannon: exactly. i think there s going to be an awful lot of tension within the republican caucus for all the reasons that liam just described. before you can even get to whether or not democrats could be brought further. shannon: many hurdles. here s what nanci pelosi, the top democrat in the house is saying about this. this is the first time in this era that we ve had a president that has rejected newcomers to our country. shannon: liam a lot of people will say that s not fair. he s not rejecting people coming here illegally. is there any way to make this less divisive and less partisan so there could be a solution? part of thish sioux congress doesn t do comprehensive very well. they keep it narrow, keep it simple, come up with a border solution and a daca solution. that s the only way you don t get into tripping other things that end up you know to build a coalition that gets to 218 or gets to 60 in the senate, you need to keep it
that crisis that the trump administration i would argue has created is not going to win democratic votes is probably not going to win some republican votes. plenty of republicans are up for reelection right now that have to rely on latino borders in their states where border issues are major issues in their states and feel it s unamerican to separate children from their families as you heard in that decision. shannon: that s motivating everybody on the hill because they see this and know it s heartbreaking. the president was asked about this morning. he said repeatedly, i hate it. i hate it, he s saying this is not something that should be happening either. liam, he says we need democrats to come to the table so we can solve this. so who is at fault? is everybody at fault? this just goes to show you what the dynamic is that s very tricky. republicans have about a 10% of their conference, 30 members or so for whom any solution is really important for them to get. another 10% pro
bipartisan solution is going to have to be where this goes ultimately if they want to solve the problem. shannon: getting 218 in the house and getting to the senate where you have to have 60 which means you have to have democrats vote for it there. then for it all to be together to get to the president for him to sign it, it seems like a tough needle to thread. i m an outside observer when it comes to the republican caucus. there is, as you just heard described, significant division within the republican caucus. forget about winning democratic votes for a second. could you get a majority of the republicans in the house or a majority in the senate around any proposal? that s my first question. as much as i d like to argue the democrats are necessary for everything, we re not. can republicans coalesce around a solution that then you can bring just a few democrats along. you don t need all. that still seems elusive. i think one of the reasons why speakerine has had such a devil of a t
to sit down and hammer this thing out. it doesn t seem we have a lot of people right now on the hill who have those kinds of relationships because everybody agrees what we saw in that story is not ok and they want a solution. the tough thing is, how do we get there? um, but you would think and hope that good men and women of the hill will rise up and figure this out. i d like to think that the super majority of senators, democrats and republicans alike, who first passed immigration reform this was a couple congresses ago, but they did it i would like to think that bodes well for a similar vehicle coming together this time. what stopped it then was the freedom caucus in the house. i think that s what is stopping it now as well. but i d like to think there s still room for bipartisanship on this issue. shannon: we re out of time. we ll say though the president has campaigned very clearly he wouldn t have anything to do with amnesty and he was going to take care of this problem. h