be more opposed to a welfare state. tucker: you know why i m in favor of come i m in favor of acknowledging reality. under those circumstances go we have not stopped ever illegal immigration paired tucker: we are in no position, on the horizon there is no point were going to reduce benefits to americans. mack until we eliminate the welfare state, why in the world would be bring people in here and an open border scheme? immigrants pay more in taxes than they consume and benefits and they don t have access to welfare when they come to the country. it s not true compared to europe and other countries. if you re here in a green card you don t have access to welfare for five years. tucker: but you re using the fruits of society that the rest of us pay for and there s an actual cost that spirit they need health care in an emergency room it s a real thing for it i expense a lot of those things. the benefits, the way to solve