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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Witt Reports 20211219 19:29:00

right. their numbers are slowly ticking up in terms of deaths. that s the concern. because severity of disease from a new variant, it s very difficult to figure out because it s not just a function of the variant itself. but as we ve talked about, alex, it s a function of the demographics, how many people have gotten vaccinated at prior inspections. and what we re getting is just mixed data currently about how severe this is or isn t. i think what we can say with confidence is that it s probably not more severe than delta, and there is data that shows it could be less severe or slightly less severe than delta. but it is so transmissible. it doesn t matter if it is less severe because it does a good job of finding people who are vulnerable. and to your booster point, only half of those over 65 in the u.s. have gotten boosted. and that s a vulnerability that we re walking into omicron with. in terms of timing, the ease of transmission, cdc director

Transcripts for MSNBC Stephanie Ruhle Reports 20210818 13:27:00

certainly as it affects the delta variant and older populations like those in nursing homes, there should be updated data on that so we can understand why there s a conversation right now over boosters. the bottom line, steph, there is no question that getting a shot is still your best bet at preventing optizations and preventing deaths. stephanie? peter that phrase the waning efficacy of the vaccines doesn t sound good. does this recommended booster point to any sort of failure of the vaccines in any way? well, not really, stephanie. i think the whole, this whole arg discussion needs to be reframed. here s why. when these vaccines were rolled out in december and january, they were given with a three to four-week interval between the first and second immunization. that would not be the schedule you would recommend if you want to create longlasting, durable protection. it was done for, to get as many

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