since the news that mueller will appear on the hill. reporter: it won t be as satisfying as some democrats would hope for, hallie, because of what yulia was talking about. we expect robert mueller will follow the law. he signaled so strongly that he wants to stick within the confines of his testimony. it will be like a book on tape. the closed door session is where lawmakers will hope to get more. it is the result of long-term negotiations and one of the markers along the pathway from oversight and investigation to potential some day, maybe, impeachment proceedings. without robert mueller that would be a big hole in the investigative work of democrats. and to see the two committees working together, intense and judiciary, is a sign of a coordinated plan here. although that is not satisfying, to some democrats who believe
foe tell sessions to recuse before he mcgann knew he couldn t do it. he s the guy that argues against the comey firing, he was there shoulder to shoulder, he doesn t know what mueller knows. it seems implausible to me that in 30 hours he doesn t provide factual material that s illuminating about the president s state of mind. i think it s overconfident to be saying that at this point. the real question is, why would trump s lawyers not debrief mcgann because he s given 30 hours of interviews. much of which the trump legal team is in the dark about. 30 hours is like a book on tape, isn t it? that s a lot of testimony, the white house got nothing out of this in return for letting all
i m interested in what came out when the president didn t know that people were listening. interesting. go ahead, jack. to your last point there, they not only didn t raise executive privilege, they pretty much waved it. so i think it s going to be very difficult for them now to reel this back in. the other thing i wanted to mention was the initial reporting the new york times about mcgahn s providing testimony indicated he was doing so because he was afraid he was be set up. that speaks volumes. clearly somebody who feels they might be set up thinks one or more people in the office in which he works, that is to say in the administration, has exposure, legal exposure and he wanted to make sure he was not the one hold thing bag. which was the motivation for dean coming forward.
firing. he was there shoaleder to shoulder he doesn t know what mueller knows. it seems implausible to me that he doesn t provide factual material that s illuminating about the president s state of mind. so i think raeurlts little bit over confident to be saying that at this point. but the real question is why would trump s lawyers not debrief mcgahn? the white house counsel has given 30 hours of interviews. much of which the trump legal team is in the dark with. it s like a book on tape, isn t it? that s a lot of testimony. the white house got nothing out of this in return for letting all of these people submit to interviews. you would have thought that they would have at least negotiated, been able to debrief everyone.
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