falsification of business records charge, which we all believe it to be based on our reporting. that s normally a misdemeanor. were we to elevate it to a felony, which we believe the grand jury has indicted on,you need to have an intent to commit or conceal another crime i think that s a little bit confusing to people because they re trying to get their heads arndsound what is the firt crime. the first crime would be the falsification of saying that the reimbursement payments to michael cohen, trump s former lawyer, were legal expenses when, in fact, they were not legal expenses it was hush money, and it was just disguised as legal defenses that s the falsification to up that to a felony there needs to be something else, and the something else is what we just don t know, and that s the number one thing i will be looking for as soon as this indictment is unsealed. let s look at a few maybe clues that we have, glenn. all along we ve been focused largely on stormy daniels, but nbc news
mcdougal how would that fit in? what other pieces of the puzzle do we not know about that might lead us somewhere different. i have a feeling we re going to be surprised about the breadth and the scope of the indictment once it s unsealed. we know that david pecker, head of the national inquirer seemed to be in the habit of running these catch and kill operateions it seems like at least infer rentally they were designed to help donald trump retain plausibility as a presidential candidate. we also know allen weisselberg was mentioned on the covert reporting made by michael cohen when he was discussing the hush money payments with donald trump. so i have a feeling, you know, we may even seen a conspiracy charge because we know there was a conspiracy between donald trump and michael cohen. we may learn that there may be other co-conspirators. perhaps david pecker, perhaps a allen weisselberg.
here in washington, the administration committee, the oversight committee and the judiciary committee have been lobbing back and forth letters to the district attorney s office requesting information. they ve gone as far as to suggest that alvin bragg the district attorney should come before these committees for a transcribed interview. the d.a. s office making it clear today after the news of the indictment broke that they are not under any circumstances going to just wholesale comply with what the house republicans are asking for, and they are also making it clear that they are not going to allow these requests from congress to interfere with their investigation and accused jim jordan, the chairman of judiciary, the other chairman to try and use politics to get in the way of their investigation and they even took it a step further by suggesting that these republicans are actually looking to undermine an attack people
powerful, whether they re president ths or former presides or whether they re ordinary citizens. so much to talk about i want to bring in nbc s garrett haake who s been camped out in front of the d.a. s office in manhattan. nbc s dasha burns is outside mar-a-lago in west palm beach, laura jarrett is nbc s senior legal correspondent. and glen kir in kirschner is a federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst. garrett, what s the latest what have we learned today reporter: chris, as you pointed out, the grand jury voted to hand up this indictment yesterday. it remains secret and under seal, but we ve been able to report there are some 30 separate charges in this indictment, mostly relating to document fraud now, most of what s going to happen between today and tuesday are behind the scenes negotiations with trump s attorneys and the d.a. s office as well as some planning by secret service and the various security apparatus in new york city you can hear some of that behind me, an ambula
your brother has landed in the dark lands. they re under bowser s control. [ screaming ] hang on, luigi. [ ominous music playing ] [ screaming ] yes! fire! [ chuckling ] the new york indictment of donald trump one in a web of legal challenges surrounding the former president, of course, and the other investigations could pose even more severe legal consequences here s nbc news chief white house correspondent kristen welker. reporter: the bomb shell indictment against former president trump is just one of several investigations still swirling around him. mr. trump has dismissed all of the probes as politically