the agreement calls for $1.75 billion for physical barriers, physical barriers on the border, specifically, though don t say wall. it says bollard fencing. but keep that $1.735 billion in your head. it also calls for 55 miles of new barrier, including in the rio grande valley, and a limit on funding for immigration and customs enforcement detention beds. money for 40,520 beds, okay? so if i.c.e. can find more money, they can use it for more beds. but the big question in all of this, the big question is of course will the president sign on? is he going to allow this? is he going to sign it? we re going to have more on that in just a moment. this is all happening as the president is on the border tonight as a matter of fact. we re keeping a close eye on his rally which, so far, is his standard stump speech, nothing different. that s what he s doing, just a
he was even losing part of his base. he s not going to accomplish anything more with another shutdown after the failed 35-day shutdown. so he doesn t really have a choice, but i don t know if he understands that. with every shutdown, it seems like he gets less, right? but seriously, frank, this is according to a democratic source. $1.375 billion for physical barrier, for bollard fencing. the real test of the president is, you know, he s down at the border campaigning right now. what s he saying, and how are people going to react? and is he going to sign this agreement? well, i mean he may sign the agreement and then as kaitlan was saying, he could turn around and do an emergency declaration of some kind although that would put him at graed odds with his own party. i think what s going to be interesting is watching him describe it. he s down at the border telling us that el paso is safer because of border barriers, which is demonstrably not true. so he may sign this agreement and sa
like he gets less, right? but seriously, frank, this is according to a democratic source. $1.375 billion for physical barrier, for bollard fencing. the real test of the president is, you know, he s down at the border campaigning right now. what s he saying, and how are people going to react? and is he going to sign this agreement? well, i mean he may sign the agreement and then as kaitlan was saying, he could turn around and do an emergency declaration of some kind although that would put him at great odds with his own party. i think what s going to be interesting is watching him describe it. he s down at the border telling us that el paso is safer because of border barriers, which is demonstrably not true. so he may sign this agreement and say, look, we won, and just come out with a whole bunch of information that is completely wrong because this is remarkable. as you pointed out, he s not only not moving the ball forward, the ball has moved backwards over the last couple
this all bears out. the agreement calls for $1.375 billion for physical barriers, physical barriers on the border, specifically, though don t say wall. it says bollard fencing. but keep that $1.375 billion in your head. it also calls for 55 miles of new barrier, including in the rio grande valley, and a limit on funding for immigration and customs enforcement detention beds. money for 40,520 beds, okay? so if i.c.e. can find more money, they can use it for more beds. but the big question in all of this, the big question is of course will the president sign on? is he going to allow this? is he going to sign it? we re going to have more on that in just a moment. this is all happening as the president is on the border tonight as a matter of fact. we re keeping a close eye on his rally which, so far, is his standard stump speech, nothing different. that s what he s doing, just a stump speech. but we ve got a lot to talk about why he s there, to get his
retribution. then made it clear he s still digging in on his demand for a border wall, even as another shutdown looms. in the past, most of the people in this room voted for a wall. but the proper wall never got built. i will get it built. so, new term. true-ish. it is true that the democrats and republicans have voted for physical barriers time and time again. but a proper wall never got built. what does that mean? i would suggest, nothing. but david gergen, s.e. cupp, chris cillizza, thanks for being with us at this hour. david, let s get our head straight. true-ish, democrats have never been strangers to border security or physical barriers. n it s always been bollard