if you don t buy insurance, right? nobody else gets taxed if they have insurance, right? that is true. think about it. a lot of people out there are going to say why would i buy a premium insurance policy when i could just pay the tax? we re still dealing with the same problem. eric: you are talking about the penalty. different from the new taxes. andrea: taxing from tanning on up. sorry, eric. bob: what are you and eric going to do if you don t have tanning? andrea: spray tan. greg: this is a mandate for health insurance. you can t have a mandate to carry identification. so does that mean you have to walk around with a health card and can it be used to prevent voter fraud? andrea: good question. bob: that is a good point. as usual, you re right on point and right on the issue. greg: there you go. andrea: i think the founding fathers are probably rolling over in their graves. this is terrible. listen, roberts defended the commerce clause but he basically said that t
if it was another candidate besides romney it might have more teeth. but what about you, gor? the bill looks like yours. kimberly: it makes him look not very bright. if it s so flawed, why did he do it to begin with? that doesn t sound like good thing to do. bob: because he knew romney would be the nominee. that is my logic. andrea: if it s a different candidate, it could be a clean hit. what about him saying wait a minute, we were just trying to cover the uninsured, right? greg: bob is right there. obamacare delivered the house to republicans. pelosi won t be happy until they are delivered the senate and the white house. this is a win for the republicans in the long-term. if job say it s a big win for obama it looks like it s not about him. eric: this is great point. you have awoken a sleeping
real scandal. you can have both. bob: one thing that eric said before. the fact that the democrats walked out is not historic. bush, when they brought up bolton under contempt charges and meyers around contempt charges, boehner led virtually all the republicans out of the chamber. greg: but should you walk out if somebody died? isn t that disrespectful? bob: that is one salient argument. you have a dead border agent. i understand that. do the republicans want to be seen as playing politics? that s how they ll be seen. eric: it s not politics. bob: it will be played that way. eric: by you. by the left. bob: by the obama campaign. eric: right. by the left. bob: there you go. it s going to be played that way. you don t have a lot of other stuff in the story until you get in another courtroom. eric: not politics. dead border agent. you can t call it politics given what is going on. let s do this. is it politics, bob, if the
it really was picture of a man rattled. i would say in contrast to a lot of scandals i have seen in washington in 25 years there is something real at the core of this. this isn t about a bob novack column, like the valley plame scandal. core of this is 1300 firearms unaccounted for today that resulted in the death of a lot of people, including at least one as you pointed out, american border patrol agent. this is a real scandal. we know already at this point that the attorney general misled congress about it in a specific way. he said among other things he didn t know about this until the spring, april of 2011. documents prove that he knew about it year before. i don t think it s going away. there is something real here. bret: at least 129 house members, four u.s. senators, two governors and presidential candidate mitt romney demanded holder s resignation. or removal. he is the first sitting cabinet member held in contempt. does he make it to november in the administration?
roberts decision it s kicked back. if they want to get it repealed, it has to go through congress. i want to go to you. it may seem like losers for republicans but it s a long-term winner. eric: america lost, they re the biggest loser. we ll be taxed to the begeesees now. we need to see what the taxes are. and the penalty. if you don t buy health insurance, you are penalized through the i.r.s. if you don t pay the fine, they can t number one, they can t garnish your wages, they can t put you in jail. there is no teeth. so people will not do it. they won t pay the fine. andrea: that is the problem with obamacare, right? penalty is less than the premiums, why would anyone care. bob: let you all andrea: it s bob: let s talk about mitt romney for a second. here is his problem in this politically. he has the massachusetts healthcare bill with a mandate in it.