him. and he won. he won. donald trump now not only is starting to organize more than that, he has bob costa says more people on the ground than anybody else in iowa. you watch. it will be a madhouse this weekend. barack obama s big lift in 2008 came the first time was in south carolina when oprah attended a rally with him and that celebrity so you re pinning it on celebrity. at the moment the evangelical vote is in play. ben carson is doing very well among iowa evangelicals. celebrity is putting him on a different plain. it lowers expectations and allows him to get away with more. but the celebrity is a big draw. imagine if that celebrity got a ground game. that s what s happening right now. that s why people like scott walker are no longer thinking that donald trump is a joke. he s not saying
christie has to do well. marco depending on if he doesn t get south carolina. so in new hampshire, there s huge scramble. bob costa, it seems the shakeout from the first debate was not only that trump maintained in the debate but walker and bush took a fall. i know jeb s camp loves to say nothing to see here move along, move along. maybe that s the smart thing to do. cop out of the simpson frms what about the walker campaign? do they understand they didn t connect. walker s appeal and strategy is slow and steady wins the race. they are nervous because they see carson is rising. trump is rising. outsider coalition is big. new hampshire, the big story is kasich. the way kasich is rising there
to begin behaving more within the norms of international community. iran is something that s different. that s why in some ways the debate about iran is far more intense than the debate is here about cuba. all right. richard, thank you. bob costa, amy holmes, eugene robinson and steve ka. we ll talk trump tonight. remember to resist. it s not hard anymore. it was at the beginning. i think it stretched so long now. the answer to the question why it was difficult before is something you need to look at. all right. all right. coming up next, we keep it her
win? what do they say? mika, 60-40 they say he can t win. what they re saying is that a lot of what we re seeing in polls now is what they call whisky courage. it s easy to say you re for donald trump at the moment. these are people that bob costa was talking about. we re also seeing that number is 40% of insiders and these are the party officials, elected officials, in both iowa and new hampshire say it s possible. it s being taken much more seriously. who do they think is going to win, mike? in iowa people are still thinking that scott walker is going to come back. you talked about how essential that is to him and in new hampshire you have a crazy situation where so many candidates depending on new hampshire, jeb has to do well. kasich has to do well.
with that in iowa. chuck, i want to go to bob costa quickly and get your reaction to bob s story front page of the washington post. don t look now but donald trump is playing to win in iowa. tell us about it, bob. he has a big blue bus that goes to small towns, walmart parking lot by walmart parking lot signing up voters. they got a ground game. they have santorum s old guy. trump people are paying attention. any evidence they re starting to move toward an organization that would help him with the caucus? huge. they got 10 staffers on the ground in iowa. they ve got people across the state. they re leading the polls. they really believe they re cutting into huckabee, carson, scott walker, he s dipped in the polls. they think if they can bring in new people to the process, people who don t even know what a caucus is, they can have a different kind of coalition. there s no doubt, chuck, that when you see all those people walking around the state fair, it will be a lot like 2008