was and he found out about it weeks later when he read about it in the newspaper. that is just really hard to i had dinner with a guy who does traffic for radio. and he knows all the back roads. he knows traffic history. he knows everything about traffic. and i said to him, you know, what was this? was it like five times as worse or ten times as worse? he said, bob, it was 80 times worse than what the traffic really is. so how could you not . the simplicity and pettiness of the scandal is what makes it so easy to understand and digest for people. i want to get into the question, too, whether this has changed chris christie public ly and privately in terms of how he deals with people in trenton, how his staff views people. we re going to ask them about it when we come back. did i tell you i am on the. [ both ] chicken pot pie diet! me too! [ male announcer ] so indulgent, you ll never believe they re light.
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declaration, putting all his career on 32 black on a roulette wheel. everything depends on it. that s why i think and i think it has worked with some people. they say he has to be telling the truth if he s going to stand in front of c it nn and msnbc and the world and make that declaration. so it s, you know it is a marker. and he so i think people are going to be basically scrubbing every word of that as this this thing goes forward. and what i was thinking while he was giving the speech january 9, and i said this a few times before, the confidence he was showing, that he was exhibiting, bob, you ve seen this up close. he s been that adamant before that something is so and it hasn t been. right. there was the case of the former education commissioner who he
wrinkle, this twist with our panel and, bob, i know this is something you are writing about, too, the role of kevin o toole on this committee. the you say he should step aside. i do. and even giving him the benefit of the doubt that maybe he didn t know about it, if he stays on there, the republicans are not going to have any credibility. today, sunday, the republicans need to ask him to stand down for the good of the committee. well, senator greenstein, do you think he should step aside? because i m not in the press, i will be a little more center on this. i m going to say i m not surprised to see kevin o toole on the committee. he is very close with the governor. i served with him on the budget committee and other xhaes, and he is frequently placed on important committees. a bright guy. i do think he was appointed by senator cain, the minority leader, and i think that one wonders exactly why that happened under these
he worked hard at it. so did mr. wildstein. it s unfortunate for them that a mistake got made near the end of their tenure. but it s just the way life works sometimes. compared to that he s barely offered guadagno on constable anything. maybe we re reading too much into this. it seems possible as more and more revelations emerge, christie is a lot more hesitant to go to bat for his s subordinates and a lot less confident they ll be vindicated in the end. talk about all of this, i want to bring in democratic state senator linda greenstein of new jersey, charlie style with the bergen record. so, bob, i ll start with you. we had this little back and forth at the governor s office this week. it seemed i was thinking of past circumstances where political allies where one politician s ally is embattled and you sort of expect the public statement of full