they want to go on or come back early in the morning and start fresh. ron mott thank you. and turning from home grown terror to kenya, after the university attack that left 148 people dead. the military has claimed to have destroyed two terrorist camps across the border in somalia and kenya is cracking down on recruitment and asking families to report anyone who has gone m.i.a. or showing tendencies and they want to deport 300,000 refugees. they fear the refugee camp is a military hotbed. the president said the u.s. stands with kenya and his visit is still set for this summer but with several large somali american population al shabab is raising concerns here. and just referring back from the
difficult because it doesn t have the same appeal as isis or al qaeda does they are a member of the al qaeda family. we have better security and intelligence and better policing than in kenya so it is harder to do. but let s think about the ease of access to guns and materials for bombs in the united states. it not that difficult to get ahold of either. and you could do it. i think that not everyone has their guard up. and if you go after smaller targets and smaller cities it is all the easier for someone to perpetrate. tom, you just returned from the tushish-syrian border one of the strange things about this threat turkey has the situation right there on their doorstep and what did you find? i found out that turkey and those on the nusra front continue to use turkey as a
turkey-syria border tom we re getting to isis and turkey but i want to start with kenya. al shabab, and one of the gunman was a son of a government official. so help us to understand what led it to grow and do they have the resources to combat the threat. what is growing is what you find in somalio and over the boardner kenya. i think people thought al shabab was done but they surprised us with the attack in the mall 18 months ago and they are showing us they have great staying powir in the ability power in the ability to stab illize in kenya and somalia. so they are a dangerous element. so the second question as to whether kenya can manage this. we have seen attacks. on the university and the quarry
and on the bus in the fall and the west gate mall attack. and any country is vulnerable to a surprise attack and i think kenya has problems in the security services and i think it remains a challenge for them to bring together the ness intelligence policing and military response to al shabab. and you hit on this. they have called for attacks here, the mall of america and a call in canada and in u.k. if they can get away with this in kenya, why can t they get away with it here? there is the chance they could, in fact get away with it here in the united states. now they would not likely be striking from somalia and be it would be the use of those in the united states the ethnic somalia community or those they recruit to their cause which is