testimony he says at least 20 something calls where they put joe biden on speakerphone with hunter, but then they d step away, so archer doesn t know what they say directly. what joe has said, what hunter said, what the business partners say. so he s, like, i can t really say it s the illusion of access, that s not completely fair. the point there is it s completely manufactured. illusion of access, that s goldman s line, not or archer s. and the media just, here we go, we got the spin, let s run. rachel: i hope we can maybe pull this clip up later in the show where it was on msnbc with eugene robinson. so he s talking with another reporter about the 20 calls, and their trying they re trying to explain away why would joe biden agree to be on speakerphone, you know, with hunter. and they actually, believe it or not, say, well, you know, this is a time when beau was dying will: right. rachel: and it was a really tough time and so, you know,
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