Host so kate fazzini, what do a romanian teenager, a chinese dishwasher and a russian young man from russia raised by an alcoholic single mother have in common . Guest well, youll find all these people in my book of course, in kingdom of lies, but i think the ones they may have the most in common is a sort of dancing between good and bad. So you have people who have, you know, a woman in romania has very few computer skills. You have a gentleman in china, and gentleman in russia who had very good computer skills, but you see them going to work often on both sides of the equation, so someone can be a hacker forbade and be a criminal, but sometimes they can put those skills to good use. Sometimes they just go all the way down the bad path and use certain people who have a bit of a bent towards sociology going that way, as we see with our friend in russia. But in the end you have people who are curious, interesting, and people that we can learn from, which is what i was really going for.
Computer skills, you have a gentleman in china, a gentleman in russia who have very good computer skills, but you see them going to work often on both sides of the equation, so someone can be a hacker for bad and be a criminal, but sometimes they can put those skills to good use. Sometimes, they just go all the way down the bad path and you see certain people who have a bit of a bent toward sociopathy going that way, as we see with our friend in russia, but in the end, you have people who are curious, interesting, and people we can learn from, which is what i was really going for here. Host how much money did those people literally steal . Kate thats an interesting question. I dont think i have an actual figure for anyone, and without giving away too many details, we do see one of the characters make a milliondollar ransomware demand in one shot. It is not because this character knows a lot about Cyber Security or technology, or engineering, but she happens to be innovative enough and
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