talking to foreign leaders. talking to people, trying to set up appointments after they take office and all a that. there wasn t anything nefarious about trump administration people. not necessarily. legitimate reasons why the conversations would have occurred. here is the smoking gun. bill: susan rice, we would assume she s going to be called in front of the intelligence committees in the house and senate and asked. you would assume she will take the fifth. i can guarantee it. guarantee it. then the whole thingng blows up, does it not? if that happens, and i think it s early to conclude she s going to do that. i understand why you would think so but if that happens, of course, then it pretty well established as something is wrong. if she is trying to avoid self-incrimination by not talking, she is also likely to be questioned by the fbi if it s doing its job appropriately