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also always said about hope was it can t be blind hope. it can t be a willful ignorance to our history. we reckon with our history. that s how we then get better. let s bring in our panel, senior reporter for the root, jessica washington, john avlon, republican strategist jason osborn and cnn senior legal analyst. does president obama and nikki haley and tim scott fundamentally see race in america differently? is that the debate here, is it systemic or not systemic? i think to a certain extent you hear tim scott saying let s not talk about this past and that s how we ll come together and obama is really saying we have to talk about it in order to come together. you are hearing two people who are saying we have to make this better and have conversations about race that are not so toxic in society, but i think what obama is saying is we both

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