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he loves that. i m being honest with you. it s a similar thing i ve talked on the show that i met monica lewinsky. she can t let go of being bill clinton s mistress because that s brought her down, that s her identity. there s a similar thing with michael, as detrimental and raiser blade sharp as it, to emily s point, once he lets go of that, who is michael cohen. michael cohen has to deal with that. emily and i talk a lot. when you see him as a character from a distance, he s thuggish. when you know him, he s very likable. very gentle. very likable about him. this is bizarre to say i ve seen him. he seems like a good guy. what are you talking about? and i do think a lot is going i ve spent hours with him, a lot is going to rest on michael cohen s shoulders. that s one man that s got a lot of thinking to do. yes, emily jane fox, thank you very much. donny deutsche, thank you as well. still ahead on morning joe, europe is quite literally stuck between the u.s. and

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