take guys down scores of times. problem here is he was still talking when he was down. if it was a chokehold, he would have been unconscious on the ground. let s face it, hearts go out to that family. there s a dead guy here. shouldn t have been. but in reality if he put his hand he was being arrested. and the cops are there for a reason. there s calls but for selli inin ining cigaret hang on. the way you do, you got to lock in and go for the carotid artery way too macho. it s not just technical. because i will bet you that when we get to see the evidence what the grand jury heard, i bet you they heard a lot about chokehold versus headlocks. dr. baden, you got to examine. first of all i agree that it s silly to go after somebody for selling single cigarettes to a community of people who can t afford to buy a whole pack of
isn t, this one s the new york city penal law you can use a chokehold. it is not illegal. the department policy doesn t want you to use it. i agree with bo on that. but when the guy says he can t breathe you let him up. he was in a chokehold before. that s not negligent? the cop didn t go to kill him. not at all. when the cop went to the grand jury he said my intentions were to bring him down, not hurt. that s what it was. this is a terrible accident that occurred with this man. it is not an intentional murder. i m not saying it s a murder. hands up and criminally negligent. no, that s too far. you re going too far. that s as low as a homicide gets. i don t believe this should be a homicide is by another, am i right, doc? i love bo dietl, but
geraldo s right. where was the emt? it took four minutes for them to get there. that s another issue. why didn t the emt on greta they might have thought he was still breathing when he wasn t? no, after he loses consciousness he still breathes for a few minutes before his heart stops. but they might not have known he was unconscious. well, he stopped struggling, he stopped saying i can t breathe. the problem is when there s more than one cop on a person, they may pull each other and not know that the person is but what i m saying we ve got to take a break. as you can see we have protests emerging now out of oakland, california. we ll go there and back to the protest in new york city. more with the panel later this hour. but also coming up tonight after the grand jury s decision not to indict the nypd officer, america s top cop eric holder announced the federal government is announcing a civil investigation into eric garner s
president obama as well as mayor de blasio regarding our decision. now, prosecutors will conduct an independent, thorough, fair and expeditious investigation. let get this straight. so holder s going to investigate this case in which the grand jury has clearly made its decision. but when it comes to the violence in ferguson, missouri, he won t look into michael brown s stepfather for saying this. burn this [ bleep ] down. burn this [ bleep ] down. burn this [ bleep ] down! burn this [ bleep ] down! burn this [ bleep ] down! while we re talking about ferguson, what about the arsonist and the looters that destroyed dozens of local businesses? why isn t he bringing them to justice? joining me now with reaction the author of injustice, exposing the racial agenda of the obama justice department. former d.o.j. official j
christian adams. welcome back. we have ferguson. we have trayvon martin. now we have this case. it seems that every time eric holder s justice department doesn t like a decision they say, well, we re going to have a civil rights investigation. but isn t that a second bite at the apple? and isn t that a much higher barr and he recollects standard beyond for example probable cause in a grand jury? well, sean, of course under federal law you can have separate sovereigns prosecuting the same act. you can have a federal civil rights charge after a state declines to prosecute. but what s really going on here is an enormous hostility toward the police by this justice department, by eric holder prejudging the facts of ferguson, by police misconduct, sean, in a case against new orleans police officers, by justice department lawyers who will be investigating in new york and ferguson, they were found to have lied to a federal judge to have rigged a case