there is a view that patrick fitzgerald, dealing with the leak and former rove aide here so you get rebuttal time. the view was that that was a better approach involving the white house than having a day-to-day recused investigation. pat fitzgerald is a force of nature unto himself. whether he was just the u.s. attorney from chicago in his day-to-day job it matters who that person is and whether they have the title of special or not is of secondary importance. jean-carlo, you re special here. your thoughts on the wider question here? those of us in the white house at that time will remember the fitzgerald seemed to be an investigation in search of a crime. what was ultimately found to be true was that scooter libby had very little to nothing to do with the outing of valerie plame.
groups are a greater risk? tsa focuses less on the elderly because they don t hijack planes. does that argument apply here? let s look at the facts. convictions of males inside thes who tend to commit more serious and violent crimes, native-born american men are incarcerated double the rate of immigrant men, less like to engage in violent or nonvlent anti-social behaviors. so the crime and stastics can be complex. this story is not. president trump campaigned on the perception that immigrant crimes with a huge problem. that s not supported by the data. now president trump is governing with the publicity plan so that people will hear about more crime by immigrants even if they aren t committing more crimes than other people. and that is not normal. now up next, megan trainer may have said it best. if your lips are moving then you re lying, lying, lying, baby. i didn t write the lyrics. that s how she said it. some trump officials in hot
not just those against immigrants? if a woman is murdered in a so-called honor killing, shouldn t the government track and disclose that no matter who did the murder, immigrant or not? this is the obvious difference between looking at all the facts and looking only at the facts that you want. that s why experts on crime have scoffed at how the breit kbart website has a whole section called, quote, black crime. if you had an uneasy feeling of trump campaigning with family members of those killed by immigrants, that might be part of it. backing a candidate that s their right. but the government has a different obligation to patrol crime objectively. trump is trying to tilt government resources not based on the threat but based who did it. let s be fair, what about the counter argument? what if the facts show certain
be that there s not going to be an answer that is satisfying, that any kind of commission or investigation can get out of this. what we know now is that there are these various contacts. a lot of that is based on metadata, russians that then pick up conversations that seem, you know, unclear of what was going on there. i wonder if, at the end of all this there will actually be an answer of, yes, we know what happened or it will remain muddled forever hanging over this country. i appreciate it. jean-carlo stays for later in the show. how is president trump trying to change the way people learn about crime? it s not exactly fake news but could be misleading if you re not in on the trick. a breakdown of the plan and whether it s normal or not. straight ahead.
think are the most relevant questions for americans. which is basically what exactly happened? how vulnerable are we? and how can we prevent this kind of thing from happening in the future? a special prosecutor at the justice department would basically be trying to figure out whether there had been a crime committed. at the same time,gressional investigations often are where these kinds of big questions have been looked at in history. but congress right now is so polarized and so partisan, it is really hard to see that really getting to sort of these kind of credible, nonpartisan answers to these questions. so, you talk to somebody like lee hamilton, who was the co-chairman of the iran-contra committee, later the vice chairman of the 9/11 commission. he makes what i think is a pretty interesting argument that this should be taken out of everybody s hands and put in the hands of some kind of independent commission. right. that would, in fact, have the