coming here illegally. if you take away the 14th amendment, if you take that away, then someoneyo else gets to make that decision. the 14th amendment wasy designed to take that away. tucker: have democrats concluded that it s good for america to have people come here illegally and have kids here? honest area making that case? no not at all. but we are talking about and you asked about his changing views. the case we are talking about now is if you have people coming in, subverting the law and not living up to its intent, than it something we have to address. we have to do it in a legal way, unfortunately, they can t do it all by executive order. tucker: are you cool with it because everyone acts like it s only central americans. birth tourism which is a phenomenon of upper income people from china and russia. are you okay with people we are at war with them according to democrats. you are cool with russians coming here and having kids? no, i actually just told you
look at the decree the amount of time, immigration officials can actually detain those children is 20 days or less. that s an issue. they are problems we need to do with. dagen: it s an issue that people on the left will treat president trump like he is unhinged because he brings up the 14th amendment. one issue that has been going on that actually has been tackled even under president obama is the problem of birth tourism in this country. there have been department of homeland security and immigration raids on birth tourism hotels going back years, people come in from china to los angeles pink thousands of dollars to have their kids be born here so they get the benefit of being an american citizen when they grow up. in miami, it s an issue as well with russians coming in and having these children on american soil. there are ways we can tackle it without doing away with the 14th amendment. it s a very widely what he is
there are a lot of independents and people who don t like this hardcore, hard-line immigration talking point from the president. paul ryan is like, hey, man, first of all, it s not legal and i don t think we should do it that way, but we really need to be talking about health care and the economy. to speak economy! i think donald trump is trying to shore up the base but there is a question about whether what works for him in 2016 will work for him when he s not on the ballot in 2018, and they need to win and a lot of these swing districts. martha: i think you re absolutely right about assessing paul ryan s focus on some of those suburban races. the president has brought this issue up before. what i find interesting is that the scene is so hard-line, yet we know that harry reid supported it back in 1993. and he seems to have gone on about this birth tourism, this used to be something that was okay for both sides to have a concession about as evidenced by this nbc piece which i remem
going to be like this, kind of sleazy i won t say black market but they are not properly registered. and there are others that really are higher quality but cost a lot more. this seems to be a discount operation. if you have a lot of money in china and you really want a u.s. passport for your kid there are higher versions of this kind of thing and it s not just chinese. there are russian birth tourism, people from mexico, this is a big business and it s all legal. that s the problem. these people are not breaking our laws. we are the ones who set up these rules, they come here, have a kid, wait a month or two for a passport to come in the mail and they leave. at least the children s illegal immigrants actually grow up here, these kids never grow up as americans, they grow up in
china where they grow up laura: and they want the passport to reinforce this point why? it depends on the people. one, it s an escape hatch. if things go bad in your country and you are in china or turkey you never know what is going to go on there, it s a way to get out or at least the kid out. the last helicopter off the embassy are much more likely to have your kid on it if it has a passport. also, when the kid is an adult, he gets to sponsor you for immigration. it s almost like a retirement program for some people. then they have an easier way of getting into college and finally for some people it s a way of dodging the draft. if you re in turkey and you don t want to serve in the turkish army i wouldn t this is a way laura: this is not what our framers intended. is china cool with this? you work with a lot of immigrants from china, or people who come here as tourists and they do this birth tourism. but is china okay with this? not a problem?