the senate report says those eits tarnished america s image without gathering any useful intelligence. the head of the cia disagreed. it is our considered view that the detainees who were subjected to enhanced interrogation techniques provided information that was useful and was used in the ultimate operation to go against bin laden. so here s what i m thinking. that the cia was put in an untenable position with no desire other than to protect the nation. it wasn t pretty, mistakes were made. but they did their best. and i refuse to believe that there s some cabal of masochists who used 9/11 as a means of redirecting the agency. they had to have been thinking that these procedures worked while they were carrying them out. on thursday, cia director john brennan said it s unknowable whether they worked. michael scheuer once led the bin laden unit.
without gathering any useful intelligence. the head of the cia disagreed. it is our considered view that the detainees who were subjected to enhanced interrogation techniques provided information that was useful and was used in the ultimate operation to go against bin laden. so here s what i m thinking. that the cia was put in an untenable position with no desire other than to protect the nation. it wasn t pretty, mistakes were made. but they did their best. and i refuse to believe that there s some cabal of masochists who used 9/11 as a means of redirecting the agency. they had to have been thinking that these procedures worked while they were carrying them out. on thursday, cia director john brennan said it s unknowable whether they worked. michael scheuer once led the bin laden unit. michael, thanks so much for being here.
former head of the cia s bin laden unit who says the harsh interrogation program did not involve torture. that and much more. so stick around. so what really happened to a woman named jackie at the university university of virginia two years ago. was she gang raped? we don t know. rolling stone apologized for its article citing what it calls discrepancies in jackie s account and regrets following jackie s wishes not to contact the alleged assaulters. on thursday, the washington post reported new discrepancies, three of jackie s friends who were part of the rolling stone version of the story say they never spoke to the magazine. and they take issue with the way their response to jackie s first indication of trouble was reported upon by the magazine. one friend has flat out told the washington post, it didn t happen that way at all. instead of telling jackie not to report the alleged incident, the
they will absolutely return to the field to fight against our soldiers. the former head of the bin laden unit, what do you know about these guys? should we be worried? sure. i think two guys i would worry most about is the fellow who you mentioned who was the intelligence director. he ll be very important. and the fact that they asked for the governor, the former taliban governor of a providence way up north in afghanistan, it shows they are planning a civil war against the northern alliance, which will include fighting in the north. they are very realistic people. so i think what the taliban got was five players who will assist them to destroy whatever is going to be the government after we depart. and before long, we re going to have an afghanistan in two or three years much worse than it ever was in 2001. troubling words. michael scheuer, former head of the bin laden unit. thank you for getting up early with us. my pleasure.
welcome back. a fox news alert. for five years the only american prisoner of war in afghanistan is now free and headed home. this morning, i called bob and jannie bergdahl and said after nearly five years in captivity, their son beau is coming home. as part of the efforts, the united states is transferring five prisoners from guantanamo to qatar. so how does a negotiation like this happen? joining me is the former head of the bin laden unit, michael, good to see you this morning. thank you, sir. who are these guys? i didn t think we negotiated with terrorists? as far as i can recall in my mind sitting here, this is the first time we have actually done this in my memory, anyway, to