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Transcripts for BBCNEWS HARDtalk 20240604 00:53:00

messages and calls. this year, after i left russia, i did not receive any threats. you, at tv rain, are soon going to make another move, i believe you re moving your headquarters to amsterdam, cos you ve lost your formal broadcast licence in latvia, cos of some of the things that we just discussed, some of the issues with your transmissions from latvia, so you re going to amsterdam. can you imagine a time when tv rain returns to its home city, moscow, and is freely able to broadcast from moscow? i m probably being optimistic, but i think it will happen a couple of years from now, maybe in three years, in four years. i think that putin cannot win this war. i think it s obvious that he will lose. and right after he loses, i don t see that he will be able to stay in power for long.

Transcripts for BBCNEWS HARDtalk 20240604 04:54:00

headquarters to amsterdam, cos you ve lost your formal broadcast licence in latvia, cos of some of the things that we just discussed, some of the issues with your transmissions from latvia, so you re going to amsterdam. can you imagine a time when tv rain returns to its home city, moscow, and is freely able to broadcast from moscow? i m probably being optimistic, but i think it will happen a couple of years from now, maybe in three years, in four years. i think that putin cannot win this war. i think it s obvious that he will lose. and right after he loses, i don t see that he will be able to stay in power for long. you think a post putin russia would allow a tv channel such as yours to return to moscow? because many people think that the repression and the authoritarianism may be worse.

Transcripts for BBCNEWS HARDtalk 20240604 00:32:00

disruption for you at tv rain. the reason, i guess, is simple vladimir putin would like to see you cease to exist. how close to ceasing to exist has it come for you? well, we can say that, last march, tv rain, or dozhd, died. we were out of air for four months because, at the beginning of march, we were forced to leave the country, and most of ourjournalists left the country, and the tv station stopped operating. but then injuly, we decided to relaunch the tv station here in riga, and also we have a studio in amsterdam, because we know that millions and millions of people in russia, they are eager to get independent information, primarily about this war, but about the situation in russia as well. how do you know that? can you reasonably

Transcripts for BBCNEWS HARDtalk 20240604 00:53:00

messages and calls. this year, after i left russia, i did not receive any threats. you, at tv rain, are soon going to make another move, i believe you re moving your headquarters to amsterdam, because you ve lost your formal broadcast licence in latvia, because of some of the things that we just discussed, some of the issues with your transmissions from latvia, so you re going to amsterdam. can you imagine a time when tv rain returns to its home city, moscow, and is freely able to broadcast from moscow? i m probably being optimistic, but i think it will happen a couple of years from now, maybe in three years, in four years. i think that putin cannot win this war. i think it s obvious that he will lose. and right after he loses, i don t see that he will be able to stay in power for long.

Transcripts for BBCNEWS HARDtalk 20240604 04:53:00

people who call for regime change, as you havejust done with me, russians, they often face a very real threat to their lives, both inside russia and, some of them, outside russia. are you fearful right now? no. no, iam not. have you been threatened? i was threatened before i left russia. it was the third day of the war, i guess, when i was getting text messages and calls. this year, after i left russia, i did not receive any threats. you, at tv rain, are soon going to make another move, i believe you re moving your headquarters to amsterdam, cos you ve lost your formal broadcast licence in latvia, cos of some of the things that we just discussed, some of the issues with your transmissions from latvia, so you re going to amsterdam. can you imagine a time when tv

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