declare victory. they needed time for the votes to come in. disregards what they say. and then just continue with a big lie. even when his attorney general told him it was bs. when other senior members of the justice department said there was no merit to the fraud allegations. the u.s. attorney in georgia looked into other allegations and said they were without merit. he s told over and over again this is just not true. but he continues with it. and they raise money off the big lie. anger and motivate people to show up on the 6th around the big lie. and those people he insights to attack the capitol. and it s a pretty clear linear progress of that big lie from beginning to end. i think there s a question here about accountability that you and i have talked about before. the idea of clearly drying a line between the former president and what happened on this day. you don t have the ability to bring criminal proceedings, but you could make criminal referrals. what s your mess
and ivanka trumps. that was something we hadn t seen before carried live across all the major networks. it wasn t just an anonymous source, but unnamed sources. it was here bill saying it in his own words. here s jason miller saying it in his own words. let s bring in jonathan allen. jonathan allen is senior national politics reporter and he is at ground zero of president trump s pushback against this committee, because he is in wyoming, where billstep yan is helping to manage a campaign to challenge try to defeat the republican primary. right now, if you zoom out from where i am in jackson hole, this is a really tough race for reelection that liz cheney has. the only polling we have seen put out has cheney down about 30