talk. [speaking spanish] joining me now is sam brock in uvalde with the latest on the shooting. also he s in houston where the show must go on for the nra. first use them, it s very hard to watch, to hear, and process what happened there. then we learned of the injured children calling 9-1-1 for help. didn t get there in time. it all feels impossible and we are not even there. here in the studio. but you there on scene? what are you learning sam? well certainly it s gut wrenching alex. you talk to parents here, and they say it feels like the floor falls from underneath them every time they hear these press conferences. the changing narratives. also that the help was there on. time there were 90 law enforcement officers inside at 12:03, that s the same time the 9-1-1 calls were coming from the classroom. the incident commander based on the volume of shots, and initially they re 100 shots fired in the first few minutes, and then slowed down, that incident commander made
just yesterday. ultimately, as we all know,s would stop s armed bad guys s armed good guys. [applause] as the age old saying goes, the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. you ever heard that? no, you never heard that. [applause] president trump started his speech by naming each victim and having a bill toll after each name. talking to event goers and attendees of the convention, there has not been much shift in their perspective. many of them see this as a second amendment issue, a fundamental right, they believe the access to guns is what will keep more people safe. this was a strong contrast of what we saw outside the convention. we are hearing a few protesters
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not make sense. if their heart was in it to help us, they would be running at a much higher rate. what do you say? guest: well, each year they have to retool their refineries to move from the winter blend to the summer blend of gasoline so they have to run at a lower rate and the other problem they are more efficient doing things more environmentally and getting more gallons of gasoline from that same barrel of crude and they have increased production last week dramatically as they come out of maintenance season and that should be good for gasoline prices in the future. if the refiners wanted to manipulate prices higher why manipulate production. it is a waste money. they want the refiners to be less efficient, and they could run the refineries at a higher rate. neil: what do you mean wasting their team, when they take up the bill toll, they are