attempted bribery here and whether or not the political process responds to the factual record, we are now building a factual contextual record that the people of the country can make their own decisions better informed. there s a lot of journalism to be done here. we have got an awful lot of leads in the last few days for journalists to follow-up on and people to talk to who have privileges here, supposedly. well, they don t have privileges that reporters john dean, somebody listening to that could say, well, look, okay, so sondland sondland, you know, said i m in kiev. the president said, what about the investigations? and he said, they re ready to move forward. that s not saying we re still holding up the aid until they get those gosh darn investigations going. we don t know if the aide overheard what the president articulated or not, the way taylor testified about it. what it did do, though, ander n anderson, is clearly make sondland, again, a very important witness. and he
taylor said today that giuliani s work created an irregular policy channel. who was in it, sondland, rick marry, volker and mick mulvaney. the aide who heard that call with sondland is going to testify behind closed doors on friday. it s another new fact. the republicans defense of the president went from the obvious, that there was no real harm done here, we ll get into more of that later, to the arguably oblivious, that ukraine may have attacked our 2016 election, not russia. but they also made the point that neither taylor nor george kent who testified alongside taylor saw or heard anything firsthand. and they again demanded to hear directly from the anonymous whistle-blower and yet ignored the absence of key players who were ducking all the hearings at the request of the president. now let s get a take on what today meant.
he s a trump fund-raiser, that s why that s right. a political appointee. so he s the he s the whisperer and he s the go-between. and when he is in a restaurant and on a telephone with the president of the united states, by the way, is that secure? exactly, not a secure phone. on the phone with the presidenti president, everybody at the table is kind of listening. the president says, you know, i m not interested, you know, you got to get them to mention the investigations or whatever it is. he hangs up the phone and says the president s more interested in the bidens in biden than he is in ukraine. that s a big story. i m no? well, look, i think you re spinning what the testimony was. i m not spinning. i listen thed to it. the testimony said he mentioned the investigation to sondland. he didn t say, i want a quid pro quo. didn t say any of that. all it says is i overheard him mention the investigation. from that, you take, oh, they re tieing the two together.
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witnesses first, and these were men of credibility and jordan knows it. everybody builds from the inside out. you ll see that here. look at the list of witnesses next week. you re going to see they re going to get closer and closer to the inner circle. jordan rightly pointed out these two were long on worries and short of direct knowledge of what was done by whom and why and no conversations with our president. but they were not promised as anything else. they thought conditioning military aid on getting the bidens was dangerous and jeopardized relations with ukraine. they never got tripped in five-plus hours of testimony. and you know who did speak directly with the president. gordon sondland. the big bombshell from today is taylor testifying that one of his staffers overheard a call between the eu ambassador sondland and the president and potus was heard wanting an update on the biden investigation. you better believe that call is going to be a hot topic when sondland testifies in a