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Transcripts For BBCNEWS HARDtalk 20240703

You have been watching israels Military Assault in gaza from afar. Has it unfolded in the way you expected . Yes, it has unfolded in the way i expected but not in the way that i thought it should be. There is a huge tension between the way that i see this war and the way that the government define it, and the problem is, and i have said it from the very beginning, that this war is a war without any political goal. And what happens to this type of war, that the war becomes the end and not the means in order to achieve a better political goal. So the answer is yes and no. Isnt the strategic sort of aim to destroy hamas as a Fighting Force and to completely eliminate it as a governing force in gaza, isnt that a clear political strategic ambition . No, absolutely not. It is a military goal, it is not a political goal. We have to understand that when we discuss the whole concept of war, the idea is to create a better political reality. The battlefield or the military forces are just the mea

Transcripts For BBCNEWS BBC 20240703

Columbia University Said the students had escalated the protest to an untenable situation and it had no choice but to call the police. Pro Palestinian Protesters have been occupying a tent camp at the Ivy League School for nearly two weeks. Lets speak to omar wasow, a Political Science professor at the university of berkeley, california, who studies protest movements. Columbia University Says it was left with no choice. What are your thoughts . Research that i do look for protesters in the 1960s and what i find is that when protesters are non violent and there are heavy handed tactics by authorities, that builds sympathy for the protesters. That is what we saw two weeks ago at columbia when students took over the building. What i find also is that when protesters engage in protest initiative violence, that tends to build sympathy for more Law And Order and i think that is what we saw today. Them taking over the building today creates legitimacy for this Massive Police response. I i kno

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