bill: unresolved problem segment tonight. military action controversial in some circles. after osama bin laden was killed by the navy seals, a few people had a problem with it citing moral grounds. one of them is father edward beck. he joins us now. you told our guys and i m going to quote you here. i m uncomfortable with killing of osama bin laden being celebrated like a super bowl win and you are referring to the people in front of the white house and other places in times square very jubilant about bin laden dying. why are you uncomfortable with that. rebecca rudy giuliani said ho a church which is the more appropriate situation. it cannot be celebrated like a super bowl. just because osama killed all of these people, understandable a tragedy, killing him does not justify that action. bill: i disagree with you 180 degrees here. you remember after world war ii, vijay was celebrating the end of the war our enemies trying to
i m not going to take rumsfeld from a secondary source from somebody like you. you know what rumsfeld said. this is a part of burnish the president terrible president and terrible foreign policy. bill: doesn t have anything to do with bush. ideology. bill: whole life. come on, stop that. bill: this is about protecting americans. it s an attempt to make bush look good. you got people. bill: i can care less about making bush look good. this is about protecting people and you couldn t care les about it ideological zealot that s what you are. don t say that to me. this is an attempt to make bush look good so try to justify which was terrible. this was an attempt to justify a terrible president with a terrible foreign policy. bill: you have 60 seconds to say what you want to say. i would like to bring robert why waterboarding and some of the other ai.ive s worked about.
interrogation gets you no information. the pentagon said that. bill: alan colmes said that. i do believe it still. donald rumsfeld said this was not the result of waterboarding. bill: donald rumsfeld? rumsfeld doesn t know what he is talking about? bill: candidly i don t want to hear what rumsfeld has to say. we confirmed today that peter king the congressman, the head of the national security team said on this broadcast absolutely true. rumsfeld says otherwise. bill: i don t care what rumsfeld says. rumsfeld wants to sit here. i m quoting the defense secretary of the united states, mr. o reilly. he said. no. bill: evidence is overwhelming that coerce interrogation did lead to the initial bill. that s your opinion. bill: you don t believe is it. you will never believe it you are like doubting thomas. according to the time line. intense interrogation and waterboarding took place in
country fatal. bill: that s what king says it was out-of-country facility. the washington post backs that up. that this happened. waterboarding obviously was used on khalid sheikh mohammed many, many times so there we go. now, as far as going forward is concerned, there are a lot of stories floating around. we are hearing that bin laden didn t have a gun. but he did resist. that s what jay carney, the presidential spokesman said today. i don t think it matters. i think that this guy declared war in the united states. he and his organization our military took him out as well they are the right to do. pakistan now becomes a big player, mr. burton. and pakistan, i m sorry, they helped bin laden and they helped the taliban and we are sending them $3.4 billion every year. that s insane. something has to be done. am i wrong? no. you are not wrong. the safe house location is highly troubling. the first thing you want to do in the field when you get a safe
to try to keep me in line. it s part of your job. but you have been pretty easy on me the last few months. you haven t gone after me. i m waiting on you to drop the shoe on my head. if there was something that you did wrong. bill: i have been perfect for the last three months. for the last three months have you been perfect. you have should have gone after the priest a little harder. bill: i can t do that i will be excommunicated. i m one of the chosen people i might be able to help. bill: i m in it to the end the irish catholic thing. bernie goldberg. charles krauthammer will be here on whether president obama will ride it to re-election. krauthammer is next.