he s going to make his decision. mine will be totally independent of what the vice president does. i ve always been a fan of joe bid biden s. i hope he gets in the race. the more the measurrier, i thin it s good for democracy. we re going to beat him because we re going to have a positive realistic agenda. people want results. they want people to get things done. what did people want for governor in virginia? a tough economy, rebuilt it. i inherited a huge deficit, left a big sur plplus. that s what people want. i have to get things done, too. i want to pay my bills. thanks, governor. be right back. and if you feel,
realism. that s what america is yearning for. he owns this shutdown we have today. i remind you, kate, that we have 800,000 people. they now can t pay their rent, can t buy their groceries. we have a lot in virginia. i met a woman last night and she said, governor, i m broke. i have no money. this was created by donald trump and i hope we get it resolved. he s a very emotional, unstable man. i think one of his mood swings, hopefully he moves the other way. we need to reopen the government and then have a real honest discussion on border security. but he owns this shutdown. he is in a real pickle. unfortunately, he s caused a lot of problems for so many americans. when we talk about the democratic party, and as you just said you want them to be achievable, realistic promises they re making. you re raising your op-ed as a federal jobs guarantee, something that is not realistic.
already? joining me now to discuss the race for 2020 nomination is another possible contender, former governor bill mcauliffe. governor, thank you for coming in. kate, happy new year. thank you very much. pardon my cough and my cough drop. regardless, let s move on. you laid out what you think democrats need to do to beat donald trump in 2020. you laid that out very clearly in your view in the washington post. one line in it reads as follows. negativity is playing on trump s turf. the reality show star will always win that race to the bottom. so essentially you re saying don t get in the mud with donald trump, but, governor, have you talked to any of the republicans who tried to beat him in 2016, he ll say that doesn t work. just ask jeb bush. there is nothing donald trump says that is truth, so you have to hit him on the falsehoods he has. but i think americans are yearning for is an optimistic leader who s got plans that can actually be implemented. when i think about the thi
we ve gotten done in virginia, we stopped the republicans from shutting the planned parenthood clinics down. i ve restored more felon rights than any other governor in history. number one state for cyber, number one state for data. we invested a record amount for education. we need to put out real ideas of where we think this country needs to go and how we re going to get there. my only point is we can t be making false claims to get in the pigpen with donald trump who makes false accusations. he is a lying populist. that is what he is. he says things he thinks people want to hear but no chance of becoming law in this country. let s rise above it. believe it or not kate, people want to get things done. they want to create jobs, they want good education, they want the roads to work. they want to be able to move and see their kids play a ball game. i m just concerned that a lot of ideas i ve seen so far, some have no chance. good aspirational goals, i m all for it, but we have to have