well-advertised by the white house. a lot are unknown because the full effects. bill don t kick in until 2014. heather: let s talk about the messaging aspect of it. mary katherine, talk more about that. a recent survey from the kaiser family foundation poll actually from this month, two third of uninsureds, overall, they say though don t know how it is going to affect them. if you go even further than that, 29% of people think that it actually is going to hurt them. yeah. no, i think there s a lot of fear about what is coming down the tracks here. part of that it is not just a messaging problem, that is what the white house always said. part of it is the bill is not written yet. a bunch of small business looking at this thing going, the regulations are not filled why. why were they not filled in. during the passing of it they didn t want everybody to know what the specifics would be because they would be real expensive. as they got close to 2012 filling them in would be problematic.
and deal with numbers. let s put the fanciful chart away. deal with the charts. joining us john harris, editor in chief for politico.com. thanks for being with us. hi, david. how do you see this cutting politically short and long-term towards november? that is not yet clear how it will be played out. a lot of bold predictions on both sides with democrats saying once you get passed the process, people will focus on substance. that will become partner. some talking a big game saying they can make repeal a potent political issue. both those claims are a little boastful at the moment. we just don t know. one challenge that democrats have is that many of what they consider the most positive aspects of the bill don t kick in immediately. of course that s also true of what republicans are saying the worst and most objectionable
smoke and mirror. bait and switch. this is all gimmicks. everybody agrees you ve got to reform health care. but what s the gimmick? it s not going to cost you any extra money. all of these extra people are going to be insured. what it means, for ten years we re going to be paying in. who s going to pay in? you and me. tax increases and maryland i cade and reimbursements are going to be cut. for ten years you re collecting money. $1 a year. you bet. and the metaphor you re only spending six years worth. you re collecting money for ten years. and then you re paying it out over six. well, of course you re going to be saving money. you re not saving money. because what you re doing is collecting for ten, giving back for six. anybody can understand that. this is raw ezra, i want i want to jump in here. this is wrong. it should be clear we re going with the real numbers here. the bill accelerates savings as it goes on. what you can say is they tax us too much, saves too
underlying problems, is this smoke and mirrors or political expedience at the very least? first of all, ezra is right. most of the taxes that will pay for this bill don t kick in until four years down the road. so that s just not true. but the problem, as both of them have noted, is it really doesn t bring down costs. that s largely due to the deals made up up front, with the phrma, hospitals and ama, that frees all of the health care costs in place as well as the dependence on the employer insurance system. and that is going to prevent our ability for the next ten years to really deal with health care costs. it s going to pour concrete into the present system. and really keep us from being able to make health care affordable. the german system, health care costs are roughly half of what they are here. and they have better quality of care. we can t do that. we spend a huge amount of money, our percentage of our gdp on health care frlt and if we go and sort of lock in all of these dea
there are deadlines squeezing our congress. first off, march 18th. that s the one the white house says they want to have the senate bill passed to clear the house by next week. that would be fast. how democrats say they re focusing more on march 26th, when lawmakers will leave town for an easter break. the president had wanted a bill through the house and senate on his desk for signature by that date. you might want to toss both of them, though. there is another much less publicized date, april 15th, tax day. that could be the actual deadline for this legislation. the 15th is the statutory deadline for congress to pass a 2001 budget resolution. remember, this bill is being passed as part of the budget process. if the bill is not passed as part of the budget process by that day, and congress has not exercised its authority to use reconciliation for health care reform, they may well lose it. the biggest ticking time bomb, of course, americans patience for the partisan sparring and the l