other two committees, which includes many republicans are doing, is the initial interview of witnesses. no prosecutor whatever put a witness, no lawyer would ever put a witness, and a public forum without interviewing that person first. senator graham and his staff to that in the bill clinton impeachments, congressman rodino and his staff did that in the richard nixon impeachment, congressman schiff is choosing to do it in front of the committee, rather than just in front of investigators. the president s due process rights will come into play when witness when evidence is publicly presented before the judiciary committee but the preliminary investigations, the preliminary inquiries, never in public. charles: well, there s a lot of frustration about this. there is and if it were up to me i would love to be a fly on the wall that i would love to know what s going on. but the house rules don t permit it a at this stage. charles: i also think the selective leaks don t make this ev