coming up. jeb bush is the big story. i m glad you are going to do that, bill. he is not dropping out. he is not dropping out because he has the big super pac money. but the idea that he opens himself to the kind of derision where he says you go it meet with your mom and dad. bush comes back i m too cool. i don t need. this i mean. that does jeb bush risk being humiliated in florida by marco rubio or perhaps the outsider candidates. trump is leading in florida as we all know and leading hand diddly over jeb. everyone thinks jeb is going to go the distance. if you lose all the big states and you lose your home state, i don t really see the pathway for him at all. but, you know is, it a matter of pride? does he stay in? i don t know. here is the equation. when some of these candidates do inevitably drop out, their follower also go somewhere else. you don t think they are going to go to trump because
movements have not been willing to go directly to those folks, create the tension, challenge them face to face which is exactly what you can do at a shareholder meeting. that kind of organizing and that kind of action energy xizs people. it s truth telling. and i think one of the big problems we ve had in the progressive sector is the gap between what people believe and what they re willing to say. and if we start to say the truth and really maim wname who is be the curtain, i think we ll energize more people. it the there is no doubt that people are lining up around. there are big ideas around principal reduction. and also a serious movement around breaking up the big banks and finally money and politics is like the unifying issue. whether you work on health care, banks and foreclosures, jobs and worker right, private prisons, it all comes back to money and politics. that anti-corruption movement from super pac reforming and the
demonstrations planned at 32 shareholder meetings across the country. more people will mobilize leading up to and at corporate shareholder meetings this spring than at any point in history. and i know we re frustrated more haven t engaged. i think we ll see a lot more hit the streets. and to what do you attribute that confidence? i think more and more people are making the connection that government isn t the problem. it s the prize. but right now, it sits in the hands of corporations, it sits in a trophy case down on wall street. and we can go to government and ask our elected officials to address these issues or we can say who is really if charge here? and we think the corporations are in charge. so instead of just going up to capitol hill every month and talking to those guys, let s go to the people behind the curtain that are pulling the strings and say if you want to run our democracy and you want to control our economy, you ll have to deal with us directly. i know there are
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groups? the money is a horrible core row sif influence. it s a huge issue and we connect the dots in the book to folks tapping up for big oil and petrochemical, blocks protections for the chesapeake bay, blocking protectionses for the gulf of mexico. and we kenkt tconnect the cot d every single time. we know everybody has to make a living. but the american people have to stand up and say we care about what s going for our children. we care what s good for the future of the country, not just what s good for the profits of these polluters. and it s the disengagement that we re talking with mark meckler at the top of the show that facilitates this. because people who voted in the primary, because they were so alien natured alienated people money, it empowered the special