engagement of ideas of reforms and how best to achieve that, that s a good thing. i know one of the things that you re discussing probably very intensely behind closed doors at the house republican retreat is the immigration reform bill that i know you and speaker boehner really want to pass that is an area that president obama has signaled as a place where he thinks democrats and republicans can come together. it seems as though the big sticking point is a path to citizenship. do you think there should be a path to citizenship in an immigration reform bill and can something like that pass the house? this is among the debates or the conversations that we re having with ourselves today and our caucus health care, job creation, and immigration. i do not think you should have a special path to citizenship for the undocumented immigrant. i ve been pretty clear about that. this is why we re not going to take the senate bill and not going to engage in a process that could result in a sen
we can start with they dumped this on us sometime around 7:30 this morning. there was an e-mail, oh, by the way, we ve changed our lesser included request from aggravated assault to third-degree murder based on child abuse? that s the big sticking point today before the judge because again the two sides are arguing over this motion that was presented by the prosecution to allow the jury to consider the lesser charge of fell any murder in the third degree based on child abuse. now, the judge has already gone forward to say that the jury can consider manslaughter charges. our legal eagles have been watching this morning. lisa bloom and paul henderson. lisa, let me start with you about this. is this typical what we should be seeing as we re ramping down again to the final chapter, the jury to hear the prosecution start with their closing
a pathway for legal status for those who don t get tote get in the front of line and meet other requirements. making sure we have other protections in the bill and there s enough elements for compromise here. if any side digs in and says it has to be all my way. what about verify? sam, are you a believer that we can have a system given all the electronics this incredible electronics we keep reading about? certainly the nsa has it. this ability to know everything every time somebody does something wrong. they ve got pictures of them at the atm machine, pictures of them going to walmart. apparently we re under surveillance. it seems hard to believe we can t tell if a person s the man or woman she claims to be or not. sure. that s the big sticking point right now. e-verify is one thing. this biometric fingerprinting system is another thing. the question is, is it too costly? will it take too long to implement 100% across the board? i think there s a general
consensus around that. number two, enough latitude to accommodate both high skilled workers h1b visa issue is so important but enough in the areas where there are shortages for low skilled workers, as well. a pathway for legal status for those who don t get tote get in the front of line and meet other requirements. making sure we have other protections in the bill and there s another elements for compromise. if any side says it s got to be all my way. what about verify? sam, are you a believer that we can have a system given all the electronics this incredible electronics we keep reading about, the nsa has it, this ability to know everything somebody does something wrong, they ve got pictures of them going to walmart? apparently we re under surveillance. it seems hard to believe we can t tell if a person s the man or woman she claims to be or not. that s the big sticking point right now. e verify is one thing.
this ability to know everything every time somebody does something wrong. they ve got pictures of them at the atm machine, pictures of them going to walmart. apparently we re under surveillance. it seems hard to believe we can t tell if a person s the man or woman she claims to be or not. sure. that s the big sticking point right now. e-verify is one thing. this biometric fingerprinting system is another thing. the question is, is it too costly? will it take too long to implement 100% across the board? i think there s a general consensus among the actors that they want to move to a system in which we use our electronic advantages to help secure the advantages to make sure that people aren t hiring undocumented workers, et cetera. the question is, is it so burdensome an that you end up putting the pathway part so far down the road that it makes it pointless for pro immigration reform supporters to sign onto the bill. let s be fair here. you and i, sam, and the governor here have to