re-elected. lisa murkowski is pushing back on mitch mcconnell. saying, hey listen, it s not fair for you to go out and say this is a paraphrase for everybody it s not fair for you to go out and say you re closely aligned with the white house that you re working with them on this. she says it only confuses matters more. she s been critical of democrats and the way they conducted themselves in the house. it lisa murkowski s feeling contagious? will other republicans say will we hear that from marco rubio who s told a veteran in the hallways of the senate. i don t know if you ve seen this video. that he is waiting for all the evidence to really pay attention during a senate trial. will he say to mitch mcconnell i would like to hear all of the evidence? or will he say, no, a portion is just fine. on the question of it being contagious, you know, i hope it is. the truth is with more and more information coming out, i think it s more likely that it will be. which brings me to the
board, if a subpoena is issued, we ll deal with it. he didn t say we d comply with it. he said we ll deal with it. and so that s their position now. and but they view that as sort of a trap question, as well, katy because they also don t think republican senate is going to bring it up. i think let s talk about it if it actually happens but as you said, i m not quite sure it looks like it s one of those things that will happen. mitch mcconnell, after all, said that he doesn t want to have a big showy trial. and that would certainly be one with with joe biden. mike memoli. mike, thank you very much. joining me now is the mayor of birmingham, alabama. randal. he recently announced his support for biden s presidential bid. all right. so let s talk about ukraine. and obviously, the president is throwing out unsubstantiated allegations. he s exaggerating joe biden s relationship or role. claiming things that did not exist. and he s he s got the support of of a number of his allies.
she s, in part, withholding the moving the articles across the street because more information like this can come out. and it puts pressure on senate republicans to, i think, adhere perhaps to the op-ed in saying, you know what? you could agree that this was inappropriate and wrong even if you don t agree to convict. and i think what it does is push senators in a position, republican senators, in a position to have to acknowledge that their president can t be controlled. but is she also banking on the president demanding that he get a trial? he wants to see a big, entertaining show? he s not going to get a big, entertaining show he wants. it s not the way it works. you re not going to have senate members throwing out questions and making speeches. they have to write notes and send it to the chief justice, who is presiding over the trial. it s not the show he thinks. no one s walking away with a rose or getting voted off the island. it s not a whole glamour show. but what is impor
we need to hear from bolton. we need to hear from esper. we need to get the entire timeline on when this aid was withheld, why it was withheld, what trump said. who he said it to. if the republicans are serious about exonerating this president and making the case to the american people that he did nothing wrong, we need to hear everybody testify about all of it. so does this change the calculus for republicans? do they now want to hear from these people? or do they now say, no, no, we definite definitely don t want to? of course not because now you re opening up a whole new kettle of worms if you will or kettle of fish. can of worms. because what happens is they now have to relive, go through all of this testimony again. this is exactly what mitch mcconnell was warning the president about for the last month. no, you do not want a trial, mr. president, because this now puts mcconnell s members in a more difficult position for moderate states. and that being said, mitch mcconnell car
for more, i m joined here on set by politico chief economic correspondent and cnbc contributor ben white. republican strategist and msnbc political analyst susan del percio. and democratic strategist and former new york state democratic party executive director basil. all right, guys. so for fear of the president looking like he is more aligned with russia, don t do this is what one aide said. congress is going to get become unhinged. congress didn t just become unhinged. they impeached him. exactly. so i guess i mean, this story fills in a lot of holes to what we already knew. my question is, gosh, i i wish i heard this during the impeachment hearings. i wish i saw those e-mails. right. i wish i heard it, too. i wish i saw the e-mails. i wish i had all the testimony from all these people. i mean, this raises the question for a senate trial. do we need to hear from these people? obviously, we need to hear from them. we need to hear from pompeo.