the whole thing was set in motion by the collapse of the talks and the sequester and negotiations by the super committee. they re starting with actually boehner and obama came quite close that summer. so they re starting with a lot of work done. it s one of the reasons why i think there s a chance there s a cause for hope that this can get done relatively quickly. they ve had a lot of pieces of paper with a lot of numbers on them that got them close. chris is right, the president will feel like he ll have a stronger mandate in a stronger position and i also think they really think about the president he thinks of himself in historic terms. he already can see if he can get this done, and get it done whether by the end of the year or gets if you kick the can down the road into the early part of next year but you can get the big grand bargain down, man that will tee up a very stable, really great basis to work on for the rest of the