fraud. you know, a lot of people are saying to me that they don t like the idea, i m prepared to forgive up to $20,000 if you got a pell grant, or $10,000 for anybody who has a student loan during the recession. guess what? we pay the so-called ppe program, we paid i think it s $900 billion. don t hold me to that number, for anybody who had a tough time with their business during the pandemic. so they could pay employees and do but guess what? you may remember, i was running for office at the time. you may remember that i had a big fight with the former president, and maybe future president, bless me, father. any way, here s the deal. what happened was, the folks are really going after me by the way, 90% of all the debt forgiveness for student loans will go to under my plan 90% will go to families making under $75,000 a year, okay? 90%. here s the deal. the ppp program forgave a lot more. i m not suggesting it should. but the big fight going on was, what happened was,
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the russians, and he could expect that that was going to happen, and we never heard a word of it from him hen he started getting asked about the russians and were there contacts and what contact there s were. you know, i talked to john. i think there is a big fight going on. it s starting right now. it s a battle between the trump people who believe they can hold 30 to 40% of the country on their side in a battle not just the liberal press or the media, but against all institutions the courts, the fbi, everything. even moderate republicans. the republican party establishment. they think they can blow out, they can just blow all that stuff out and survive. that seems like a pretty big fight historically. well, it s a pretty big fight. they have a lot of evidence to work with that they have so far. and flute the history of the trump campaign and now into his presidency, there have been people like you, people like me who said well, there has to be a breaking point with the republic
society. we re a democracy, not a one man show. it s the united states of america, we re not a business run by mr. trump. i hope that senator mcconnell, who is a conservative but decent guy, i hope they make it clear that this country belongs to all of us. senator, a big fight going on about who will lead the democratic national committee. it is haping up to be a approximaty battle between the standers and the obama-biden wings. you said joe biden is a friend of mine, but you said do we stay with a failed status quo approach, or go with a restructuring of the party. do you think vice president widen is a failed status quo?