has direct or ray said, this is rampant fast and we cannot permit this to happen in the international system. mike: can you speak more about the benefits chinese have gotten in terms of what they ve learned from hacking american innovations? yeah, absolutely. direct or ray was really clear about this. china had been spearfishing and hacking at going after all the hard work about american innovation. for example, china says they will unveil a stealth bomber sometime next year. if they do that, guarantee they will have you some information that they had from aerospace companies to try to design this to compete with the u.s. and with our allies. so it s really wrong and is direct or ray says we have to continually work together all of us to deflect the spearfishing and avoid this and not let china do this illegal and unethical hacking activity. of course tells technologies on a big edge the 90s is military has in the