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problem isn t going to stop by circling around open-air drug markets and rounding up dealers and others that are there. chief lanier says that is part of it but forces driving crime here and in other big cities tough to put a finger on, leland. leland: a lot of folks have a lot of ideas why this is happen especially big cities like st. louis and chicago. already have a lot of crime. are big city police departments trying to do anything? any new proposals coming out to end this high murder rate? they re going to put their heads together. they will be a big conference with big city police chiefs and prosecutors and mayors where they try to figure out what they can be doing. also keep in mind officers are under a new kind of pressure not only to protect innocent civilians and not make any mistakes ever because they fear prosecution. leland: we have more on the prosecution in cincinnati coming up. thanks peter. martha: big question everybody is buzzing b is the clinton campaign getting a

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